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Okay, considering all my previous hardware- and software- install hells, I had no problems upgrading to Win 10 Pro over 8.1 Pro ... wonder if I got a pass on the visit by the Furies because I'm in the way under 1% of users in this country who installed over a genuine, purchased, Win 8/8.1 ?
Reading lately about the claims that Edge is the only one of the current major browsers that can actually handle streaming 1080p from NetFlix [^]. I wanted to sample Edge.
What I thought would be a simple install via turn-on-win-features, or download-install, turns out to be impossible because I the one user account on this computer has (by choice) admin rights (I am the only one who uses this computer).
So, a visit to the latest bumper-crop of Winbois sites, and one registry modification experiment later, and still cannot get Edge installed. It's there, in
C:\Windows\SystemApps\Microsoft.MicrosoftEdge_8wekyb3d8bbwe
But, trying to run it does nothing, and the .exe file's permissions can't be changed.
What to do ? Well, I'm going to write Sergey at WinAero. and ask him to focus his lasers on this (perhaps he'll remember I made a donation to his excellent site).
May your problems and hassles be as insignificantly small in the larger scheme of things ... as this one.
cheers, Bill
«There is a spectrum, from "clearly desirable behaviour," to "possibly dodgy behavior that still makes some sense," to "clearly undesirable behavior." We try to make the latter into warnings or, better, errors. But stuff that is in the middle category you don’t want to restrict unless there is a clear way to work around it.» Eric Lippert, May 14, 2008
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I must be missing something here: If you installed Win 10 Pro successfully, you should already have Edge?? It's part of the OS. You should not have to install it separately or do anything to turn it on or make it run.
Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!
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Hi, Cornelis, the version of Win 10 I upgraded with is now: 1607 build 14393.222.
Obviously, 'Edge, or parts of 'Edge, got installed somehow/
Perhaps the orgy of un-installs I did after upgrading, removing the Win Store, all the Win apps ... maybe I nuked it.
But, in any case, it appears you can't run Edge on a user account with admin privileges.
cheers, Bill
«There is a spectrum, from "clearly desirable behaviour," to "possibly dodgy behavior that still makes some sense," to "clearly undesirable behavior." We try to make the latter into warnings or, better, errors. But stuff that is in the middle category you don’t want to restrict unless there is a clear way to work around it.» Eric Lippert, May 14, 2008
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Hi Bill,
Version 1607 is the anniversary update version - currently the latest version. I run the PRO version of 1607 on an admin account and Edge works just fine. Go figure!
Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!
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Thanks, Cornelis, I am also running Win 10 Pro, and knowing its working on your machine makes me think ... there's hope
cheers, Bill
«There is a spectrum, from "clearly desirable behaviour," to "possibly dodgy behavior that still makes some sense," to "clearly undesirable behavior." We try to make the latter into warnings or, better, errors. But stuff that is in the middle category you don’t want to restrict unless there is a clear way to work around it.» Eric Lippert, May 14, 2008
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BillWoodruff wrote: Perhaps the orgy of un-installs I did after upgrading I bet that is the root cause, MS really don't consider that you are likely to remove the wonderful tools they foist on you with their operating system. I bet a reinstall without the orgy will put it all back in place for you.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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BillWoodruff wrote: removing the Win Store, all the Win apps
Edge is an "app", so if you removed everything via Powershell, that would explain it.
Did you use Remove-AppxPackage[^] or Remove-AppxProvisionedPackage[^]? If it was the former, you can probably get it back. If it was the latter, you'll probably need to reinstall Windows.
Get-AppXPackage -AllUsers -Name Microsoft.MicrosoftEdge | Foreach {Add-AppxPackage -DisableDevelopmentMode -Register "$($_.InstallLocation)\AppXManifest.xml" -Verbose}
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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Weird. I'm running Win10 Pro and Edge came installed and I am the only user on this computer and run as admin. And I run Edge just fine. Your problems must be because you're residing in the hacker-haven of Thailand...
#SupportHeForShe
Government can give you nothing but what it takes from somebody else. A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you've got, including your freedom.-Ezra Taft Benson
You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun
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I would distinguish between widespread piracy and open sales/distribution of illegally copied/hacked content, punctuated by ceremonial police raids and media-invited destruction of fake goods performances, and a place being a "hacker haven."
For "hacker havens," I'd look to Europe, Russia, China, and wherever Kim Dotcom and Anonymous are at the moment, wherever the tribe of Guccifer pastures their rootkits.
cheers, Bill
«There is a spectrum, from "clearly desirable behaviour," to "possibly dodgy behavior that still makes some sense," to "clearly undesirable behavior." We try to make the latter into warnings or, better, errors. But stuff that is in the middle category you don’t want to restrict unless there is a clear way to work around it.» Eric Lippert, May 14, 2008
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BillWoodruff wrote: I would distinguish I wouldn't.
BillWoodruff wrote: look to Europe, Russia, China... Forsooth!
#SupportHeForShe
Government can give you nothing but what it takes from somebody else. A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you've got, including your freedom.-Ezra Taft Benson
You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun
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Any chance you are logged in with the built-in Administrator account?
I know Windows 10 doesn't like that for a lot of programs. No idea about Edge though.
Michael Martin
Australia
"I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible."
- Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
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The kid hold the movie laptop hostage for a few minutes and apparently moved some folders around... (he didn't deleted as the used space of the drive was still the same)...
So the others asked me to restore the state, so they can find and watch the movies... Easy! I told and hit F3 and put *.avi to search for... Nothing! Just nothing!
After 10 minutes of manual searching I found the folders and restored them to their original position...
The only thing about the folder I found the files in is that it is read-only...Does it prevent from Windows search to look into?
Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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Sounds like the folder the files were moved into had not yet been indexed.
And this is exactly what's wrong with "search" in Windows nowadays. It doesn't search for stuff on disk. It searches an index. Which is why you can save a file, immediately search for it and come back empty.
When I have to search for a file by name these days, I drop to a command prompt and "dir myfile.ext /s"
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It sounds like the science of the middle ages... If it is not in the books it does not exists...
Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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I have no idea why anyone would ever think applying the web search paradigm (yes, I used that word) to local desktop search was a great idea.
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I use Void tools Everything[^] to search my computer.
Edit: Must read all replies before posting. I've been beaten to it like, 4 hours ago.
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Then you're posting from the other side??? Damn! Awesome! You got skillzzz!
#SupportHeForShe
Government can give you nothing but what it takes from somebody else. A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you've got, including your freedom.-Ezra Taft Benson
You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun
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Just, finally successfully ran my first app on my iPad mini 2.
Amazing how many hoops there were to jump through -- so many barriers to creating an app and actually deploying to hardware. I'm quite amazed i was finally able to successfully do it.
Barriers To Dev
1. Cost -
a. had to buy a Mac Mini ($679) -- okay, I'll give them this one since I have to have a computer but for Android I just installed Android Studio on my regular laptop. What if you had to purchase an Android laptop to dev Android apps. Blech!
b. Had to purchase a device to test apps on -- developing bluetooth and you can't test in emulator -- okay, again I had to buy an Android device also, but I can literally buy a $10USD phone and deploy to it. I purchased the cheapest device I could find (not including used) and it was $231USD for an iPAd Mini 2 (2 generations back)
2. updates -- I know Windows has too many updates too, but I had to update to macOS Sierra right after I bought my brand new mac Mini with El Capitan installed. I will say it went well. No problems.
Plus I had to then update to XCode 8 to be able to deploy to my device.
3. device has to be attached to mac mini otherwise you have to buy Apple Dev account
I can generate an APK on Android,copy it to my web site and download it and install and run. It's a bit easier. I can allow anyone anywhere to download it and test it from my site via APK. Not so with Apple.
4. Dev Account Expense -- more than any other dev account at $99 (MS = $19, Android = $25). I know i'm cheap, but I'm also broke after having to buy a new Mac and ipad mini. Actually, an Angel Investor bought the Mac Mini for me so...
Well, I just thought it is interesting and it has been quite a wrestling match, but it's nice that I finally got an app (sample) deployed to my device and I'm a "real" Apple dev now. We'll see how it goes.
Anyone else suffered through this?
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Congratulations on plowing through the path to becoming an iOS developer! I think a rewarding iOS future awaits you.
I chose the easier path (Android) and have greatly enjoyed the low barrier to entry. To be honest, what initially steered me to Android was its software architecture. Still, I shied away from developing anything meaningful because I was put off the quality of the development environments (Eclipse and to some extent, Android Studio). Microsoft's acquisition of Xamarin brought me back to Android in a big way (it's now my primary focus) because I now use a single IDE (Visual Studio) and language (C#) for all my development.
/ravi
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Thanks and that is an interesting perspective.
Also, I agree about the quality of dev environments, especially in relation to Eclipse.
Eclipse dev under Android was so difficult to open projects / transfer them to other systems.
I never could get it quite right. Android Studio is quite a bit better.
I'm spoiled from Visual Studio though, of course. Even back in the days of MFC programming I could easily build a project and move it to another build machine and work on it there.
Wow, now that I've used all these dev environments (XCode, Visual Studio, Eclipse, Android Studio) and because of your comments, I guess it is making me think about IDEs like I have never before.
I've used QuickC (MS) and TurboC++ and TurboPascal (with Borland IDE) in the distant past too.
QuickBasic IDE wasn't bad.
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One of the guys, Superloyd I think, is bitching about have huge deployment problems with Xamarin. Have you had many issues and have you deployed apps successfully using Xamarin.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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I haven't had any deployment (or other) problems with Xamarin. I use Xamarin Android to develop Android apps using C#. I don't (yet) develop using Xamarin Forms.
/ravi
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Thanks, Raddevus, for this interesting post !
«There is a spectrum, from "clearly desirable behaviour," to "possibly dodgy behavior that still makes some sense," to "clearly undesirable behavior." We try to make the latter into warnings or, better, errors. But stuff that is in the middle category you don’t want to restrict unless there is a clear way to work around it.» Eric Lippert, May 14, 2008
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