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I'd like to start by pointing out that there's a marked difference between a BA and a BS. Bachelor of Arts degrees typically have much lower requirements, namely the absence of a secondary science. I myself have a Bachelor of Science, with my secondary science being Biology. In college I was strongly pressured to make it Physics (with no valid explanation given,) but since my current employ is in the medical field, it certainly paid off.
In my opinion, any place that 'requires' a degree, but is willing to accept a BA, is not some place where someone with 22 years of experience is likely to be happy.
With regard to the degree itself, it is always better to have more credentials on your CV/Resume than less. However, given your length of experience, it is unlikely that a BA/BS will make any difference in your pay; you may just need to negotiate a little harder. I also doubt that, at this point, with 15 years development experience, a BA/BS program is going to teach you much you don't already know.
TL;DR: The degree will likely provide some benefit to you, but is unlikely to be worth the time, effort, and money.
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Years ago, I would have said to get the degree.
I was one of those guys who was out programming a peer who had a masters degree, and it
was my first real job!
I left and got my degree. I left a LOT of money on the table. I was somewhat bored by
the courses, but I learned a lot, and I never looked back. I doubled my salary getting out.
So, it DEPENDS. If you have a degree and can easily get another one, using your degree to cover
your basics (reducing your effort to a single year, or 2 years part time). then "Consider" it.
And you WANT to do it.
Otherwise, no.
But make sure your Resume makes up for the lack of THAT degree.
BTW, having Any 4yr degree is a great start. (It shows you can follow directions, although
nowadays it means you might need a safe space from people like me, LOL).
If you REALLY want a specific job, be up front about the degree you have, and highlight the
actual skills you have, and ALL of the courses, etc. Iterate the various places you spend time
learning.
As a hiring manager (in my old days), I would sort resumes by: Educ + Exp, Exp Only, Educ Only, Trash
So, you are in the second pile, or the BOTTOM of the first pile in my system.
Hiring is tight. Your resume should get you the first interview.
If there is a strong gate keeper, find them and work with them.
That is their wish list. If they get 3 resumes, they are going to read ALL 3 of them.
HTH
PS: One of the reasons for wanting the degree is easier communication. So display a willingness to do reading. We have a required reading list for all NEW developers. Some of the books are from old college courses. But it helps us to all use the same language.
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I've full of boring meetings for the comming days even the next few weeks. What a waste of time ahead.
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Paint circles on your eyelids, and try not to snore...
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I just have a question for my American friends: have all of you been polled yet? Have the phone calls (and advertisements) been continuous, or have you been able to take a break occasionally?
TTFN - Kent
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I'm nearly 53 years old and have never been polled (politically) in my entire life. Not once.
As for the advertisements... plenty of local (Northern Illinois) candidates are running ads on TV, newspaper, radio, etc... but none of the presidential candidates are because...
...wait for it....
...I live in Illinois which will invariably be a Clinton win (due to the overwhelming Democratic Chicago "machine") so there is no need to run ads for POTUS here.
Any non-Clinton vote in Illinois is merely a protest vote.
That's what I do. I drink, and I know things. ~ Tyrion Lannister
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Mike Mullikin wrote: I live in Illinois... ...and dream of Tonga[^].
Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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I have not been polled. I have received 8 calls in the last 4 weeks from Private numbers, but I don't answer calls like that and they left no voice mails. I figured they were from telemarketers, but now I wonder...
There are ads on TV, but not really any from Trump - it is probably not worth spending a lot of money on that here in San Diego...
"When you don't know what you're doing it's best to do it quickly" - Jase #DuckDynasty
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There are reports that mainstream media are suppressing ads for Trump. There are also reports that mainstream medias polls are highly inaccurate because they a) poll a significantly higher number of known democrats, and b) their sample sets include fewer than 500 respondents. Social media polls are as much as 60% in favor of Trump - exactly the opposite of mainstream media.
Who should you believe?
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
- You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
- When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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Most mainstream media are all showing Trump stuff on first page; no need for him to spend money on advertisement.
I'd rather be phishing!
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: Who should you believe? That everyone who is even remotely involved in politics is an @rsehole, maybe?
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Since I'm registered as Libertarian none of the polling companies will bother to call me (registered party affiliation is public record). Yes, we do have other political parties in the US, and no, none of them have had any impact on a presidential race since Perot in 1992. Libertarian and Greens are the largest minor parties, but both have so many nutters (to borrow from the Brits) no one pays much attention to them.
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You might want to talk to your boss. I've been polled twice in the last 24 hours. Or was that not the sort of polling you meant.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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Usually pollster's (especially political ones) use call centers. The call center flunkies usually don't pick up until they know they don't have an answering machine or the call hasn't been forwarded to voice mail. That takes time. If I answer my phone and don't hear a response within 2 seconds after saying "hello", I hang up the phone. I still get annoyed by the phone call, but I'm not hanging on the line answering a lot of inane questions.
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Took the boy and my nephew to a water park yesterday, while they went down the slides and such, I just kind of people watched. I swear it was a freakin' ugly tatoo contest, with multiple winners. I can't imagine how much alcohol I'd have to consume to get one of those. Apparently people believe being a bit uglier will solve their problems or something? Or more likely, I'm just missing the point.
"the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment
"Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst
"I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle
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jeron1 wrote: Or more likely, I'm just missing the point. No, you sound surprisingly normal. I think some men consider it manly to have tattoos, but I have no idea what motivates women to do it; especially the scribble just below the waist at the back.
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Richard MacCutchan wrote: especially the scribble just below the waist at the back. it's to give you something to decipher while you . . .
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"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein | "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010 |
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... or just to take your mind off ...
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The sad ones are when the lady has her own name tattooed there, so you can't forget...
They aren't called "tramp stamps" for nothing, I'm afraid.
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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I seen one that had her name in binary, yes I decoded it to be sure.
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Dude, you must have been bored
"When you don't know what you're doing it's best to do it quickly" - Jase #DuckDynasty
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But I just had to know what it said
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Were you able to scan it using your phone?
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nope had to copy every 1 and 0 by hand, good thing her name wasn't that long.
It was actually a Twitter Profile Background image For a InfoSec person.
So I had plenty of time to work it out.
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It could have been a bar code that translated to "USDA Prime"
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