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Interesting; Go MS!
"Microsoft brings this case because its customers have a right to know when the
government obtains a warrant to read their emails, and because Microsoft has a right to tell
them. Yet the Electronic Communications Privacy Act (“ECPA”) allows courts to order
Microsoft to keep its customers in the dark when the government seeks their email content or
other private information, based solely on a “reason to believe” that disclosure might hinder an
investigation. Nothing in the statute requires that the “reason to believe” be grounded in the
facts of the particular investigation, and the statute contains no limit on the length of time such
secrecy orders may be kept in place. 18 U.S.C. § 2705(b). Consequently, as Microsoft’s
customers increasingly store their most private and sensitive information in the cloud, the
government increasingly seeks (and obtains) secrecy orders under Section 2705(b). "
https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/2803275/Microsoft-challenges-constitutionality-of-gag.pdf[^]
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> complaining about DOJ
> to the DOJ
> hoping for DOJ limit itself
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Suresh7 wrote: hoping for DOJ limit itself
It can be done. The US is still in top 20 for Justice system if I am reading this correctly
WJP Rule of Law Index® 2015[^]
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No they are not complaining to the DOJ, nor are they asking the DOJ to limit itself. The DOJ is a federal law enforcement and prosecution service. It has no judicial powers nor does it appoint judges. In this case it will be a defendant like any other defendant and will be bound by any ruling the judge makes.
I am not a number. I am a ... no, wait!
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How would the DOJ be defendant in court? Court by definition DOJ 
NVM, you are at England 
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Suresh7 wrote: Court by definition DOJ
No, it's not. The courts are entirely independent of the DOJ. The DOJ has absolutely no input into the appointment of judges or decisions or the interpretation of law.
The situation in England is exactly the same where the DOJ equivalent is the Crown Prosecution Service. It is the responsibility of both the DOJ and CPP to provide lawyers to represent the state in criminal prosecutions, co-ordinate evidence gathering and so on. If either is deemed to be guilty of misconduct in any particular case or in the execution of its duties in general then suit can be brought against it just as with any other professional body or Government Dept. That is precisely what Microsoft is doing, alleging that the DOJ has exceeded its powers and acted unconstitutionally. The DOJ will therefore be appearing in front of an independent court as the defendant in a civil suit. It will have exactly the same rights and responsibilities as any private citizen or body appearing before a court and no more.
I am not a number. I am a ... no, wait!
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Is artificial light made of fauxtons?
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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Brilliant comment. Enlightening!
Watt else can be said now that you've LED us down this path?
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Are you trying to become part of the illuminati?
"the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment
"Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst
"I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle
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I can't blame him for trying to shed some light on the subject.
/ravi
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Upon reflection, I see your point.
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I think we should lens him a hand so he can focus.
/ravi
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I bet he would be all aglow if we did.
"the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment
"Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst
"I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle
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Indeed! We would be his lights in shining armor.
/ravi
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Exactly, a ray of hope if you will.
"the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment
"Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst
"I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle
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Yes, it would leave him beaming.
/ravi
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Seems as though we are on the same wavelength.
"the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment
"Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst
"I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle
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Yes, that appears to be happening with alarming frequency!
/ravi
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True, but sometimes we're at opposite ends of the spectrum.
"the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment
"Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst
"I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle
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And yet it never causes infra rage or ultra violence.
/ravi
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That kind of polarization would be unsettling.
"the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment
"Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst
"I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle
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Yes, it's not something that would be taken lightly.
/ravi
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We must carry the torch and ensure such incidence are minimized.
"the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment
"Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst
"I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle
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I'm beginning to like your angle.
/ravi
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I think it's just a phase.
"the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment
"Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst
"I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle
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