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Sad for you, I guess, to be turned-off on all honest people by one bad experience. It's good to be careful and wise, though. Not everybody does it for show.
Decrease the belief in God, and you increase the numbers of those who wish to play at being God by being “society’s supervisors,” who deny the existence of divine standards, but are very serious about imposing their own standards on society.-Neal A. Maxwell
You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun
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Who said "one"?
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Isn't it "Whom" did you hire and not hire?
The difficult we do right away...
...the impossible takes slightly longer.
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Well, Sir,
Pissibly, depending on ye olde longitude, and ye merrye latitude, and ye state of me mum and daddye's exchequer; I among those for whom the larval state occurred well west of ye Primo Meridiano, from livestock did'st work with their handies ... so quite pissibly deviate I from hoity-toity.
Seriously, that's a very interesting usage to discuss, and I would use "whom" (as subject) depending on social context (when "formal" whatever that means). I do not claim that's "kosher" in the grammar-system you subscribe to. Does that reflect a certain "latitude" of Americanos in regard to the usage compared to UK-England natives ? An interesting question to ask, and some think, "not," and claim to have research that backs that up: [^].
I also would use "whom" when it occurs at the end of an interrogatory phrase: "You hired whom ? Where it's clear, as in "from whom" it is the object of a verb, or preposition. "You hired who ?" "sounds" distinctly "wrong" to my ears in a way that "Who did you hire?" does not. Learned habit ?
cheers, Bill
«The truth is a snare: you cannot have it, without being caught. You cannot have the truth in such a way that you catch it, but only in such a way that it catches you.» Soren Kierkegaard
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Interrogative pronouns are a tad looser on case -- after all, saying "whomever you hire..." would make you sound like a bit of a dick.
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Since this is happening during an interview, I would expect the candidate to figure out the money was planted in order to judge them. The one who walked out with it is both dishonest and stupid.
I am inclined to prefer the second one.
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I would hire the one who said he don't have 2 hours of time to write free codez for an interview, and who laughed at the money as it is trick like a 5 year old would devise
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meh
Decrease the belief in God, and you increase the numbers of those who wish to play at being God by being “society’s supervisors,” who deny the existence of divine standards, but are very serious about imposing their own standards on society.-Neal A. Maxwell
You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun
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The one that wrote the best code.
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Jörgen Andersson wrote: the best code Exactly!
I also tend to agree that a decent person should not accept a job in such a place.
Life is too shor
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All can go if they solved the task in a certain level - but not 4!
Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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Not 1: he was cheating as Mark Wallace said. He definetely knew how to play the ball in his favour while standing on the "Righteous Path™". If that wasn't a 100$ bill but your back, he would have turned it for his own profit.
Not 3: either he did not notice it and then he definetely lacks observation skills or he perfectly ignored it - he's one that wants not to be troubled at all. Meaning that if he incurs in problems or critical misbehaviours he'll never ever react to that. And you'll never know until it is too late and then you could not reasonable do anything against him because "he wasn't aware of the fact".
I'd hire either 2 or 4. 2 understood the game and told about the bill simply to mark that he knew. Either that or he is both clever and honest (I leave them there and tell someone, 100$ are good enough money to be trouble if lost).
4 is simply the best: he saw an occasion, he took it and shut up.
Me? I would have probably took them up, put them on the table and maybe alerted someone of the company on the way out - if I remembered and cared enough.
GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP. -- TNCaver
"When you have eliminated the JavaScript, whatever remains must be an empty page." -- Mike Hankey
If a coffee bean is between the Earth and the Sun, is it a Java Eclipse? -- Sascha Lefèvre
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den2k88 wrote: 4 is simply the best: he saw an occasion, he took it and shut up.
Hmmm...but would you want to work with him?
Assuming you keep your wallet in your jacket pocket (when you wear a suit) would you feel safe leaving your jacket on the back of your chair for five minutes with him in the next cubicle?
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I would: that was a bill on the ground: no owner, no importance given - after all who dropepd it already lost it, better take advantage since someone else will do anyway. Finders, keepers... theft is way different IMHO.
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If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP. -- TNCaver
"When you have eliminated the JavaScript, whatever remains must be an empty page." -- Mike Hankey
If a coffee bean is between the Earth and the Sun, is it a Java Eclipse? -- Sascha Lefèvre
/xml>
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In the UK, that is a specific offence called "theft by finding".
If you do not take adequate steps to establish the ownership, it's theft - pure and simple.
If I find your car parked outside my house, does that mean it's mine?
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No, but a car has a registration certificate which attests ownership - in fact it is treated as an immobile propriety and requires registration. Also in Italy leaving the car open is a offence in itself and while it does not condone the theft (due to the registration certificate) it spells serious troubles for the one who left the car.
The same goes for wallets: they usually have many documents inside and so usually they're returned, but if you happen to loose a banknote it is very improbable that someone asks who's the owner. When it happens the people who do is both considered a High White Knight in these Dark Times and a ingenuous good person
Seriously, don't loose anything in Italy. The most common case of wallet finding has the wallet conveniently devoided of any readily usable money. In some cases it was stolen the wallet itself and were returned only the documents in a paper bag.
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If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP. -- TNCaver
"When you have eliminated the JavaScript, whatever remains must be an empty page." -- Mike Hankey
If a coffee bean is between the Earth and the Sun, is it a Java Eclipse? -- Sascha Lefèvre
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Assuming that they all complete the task to the same standard.
1 or 2 - no problem
3 - I'd reduce my interest a bit: he perhaps doesn't notice fine details.
4 - I'd not touch him, even if his solution was the best.
Why not 4? Because I (and my team) would have to work with him: and having someone that will happily steal is a killer for morale within an office. Just having someone who will take your lunch out of the fridge is poisonous enough, but to take money? That's a nasty one - it destroys trust.
2 would probably have a slight edge on 1, as he has correctly identified it as a "trust test" and passed. 1 is being a little ostentatious in his reaction - or he hasn't thought the test through fully.
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tl;dr, but kudos for correct use of the word "diffuse". Every time I see it in the press what they actually mean is "defuse".
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I guess that if you incorrectly defuse a bomb, it will soon become diffuse...
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Well, diffusing bombs is nasty business
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If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP. -- TNCaver
"When you have eliminated the JavaScript, whatever remains must be an empty page." -- Mike Hankey
If a coffee bean is between the Earth and the Sun, is it a Java Eclipse? -- Sascha Lefèvre
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Consider this response:
[^]Response to a "snarky" post.
I get the impression from other responses after that that my response was seen as my being angry? upset? not really sure.
My question is what about the post gave that impression?
Pat O
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This is the Lounge.
We don't do serious here...
We do do dat voodoo dat we do so well.
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OriginalGriff wrote: We don't do serious here. True, but we should.
Quote: Technical discussions are encouraged
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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Getting a bit carried away here, aren't you?
Or are you really in the dark and want a analysis?
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Actually in the dark.
Pat O
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