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installed. 
Seems ok; miss a few Win7 bits and bobs but not enough to revert. Took about an hour from start to finish and then I blatted Windows.old - no going back without a full install!
I both love and hate Edge. I love the clean interface though not noticed any great speed increase. However, I like to see all of my bookmarks pinned to the left. There appears to be no way to do this in Edge. The favorites sidebar is there but will not persist and can't be dragged. Shame - I'll stay with IE11 until they fix it.
I have noticed that start up seems slower than Win7 bit not really a big deal.
Overall, so far, so good. Now to put it on the laptop and see what happens!!!
Happy new year to you all.
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Slower than Win7  ouch, I went to Win8.1 for the speed, seems like I'll still have to wait for SP#/Win10.1 until getting it.
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BuggyTimes wrote: Slower than Win7
Not for me. It's way faster than any other windows I've ever had. Boots very quickly. Logs in very quickly.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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According to my findings it is slower on power on, but much faster in coming out of sleep...
Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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Did you update from Win7/8 or a new installation?
If the brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn't. — Lyall Watson
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Upgraded.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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Seems a bit faster to start than 7/8 for me too; although the before/after times are dominated by the mobo posting so it's almost a moot point.
I ran into two snags when I upgraded last week. I cleared both up the same day; but one was something that scuttled my initial 7 to 8 upgrade attempt. Issue 1 was just that my ethernet drivers didn't persist across the upgrade. A quick download via wifi and that was good to go.
The second was fun, I was getting the open with dialog pop up a few times an hour with the invalid path "C:\Program". A very late reply to a question I posted about a year ago on SuperUser[^] sent me on the right path. Although since the broken scheduled task wasn't on the list of invalid/obsolete ones I explicitly deleted I wonder if there's a cache hidden somewhere that's still got a trace of the bad one somewhere...
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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R. Giskard Reventlov wrote: I have noticed that start up seems slower than Win7
Wasn't it supposed to be more "lightweight" than Win7? How's the perceived speediness once it has started up in comparison to Win7?
R. Giskard Reventlov wrote: Happy new year to you all
Happy new year to you too!
If the brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn't. — Lyall Watson
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R. Giskard Reventlov wrote: I have noticed that start up seems slower than Win7 bit not really a big deal.
What does your start up look like? I mean I have minimal start up services and it works faster than W7 for same set up.
For edge, everything looks so small. I am currently at 125% zoom (it should be 25% zoom, right?). Same is with chrome too.
"You'd have to be a floating database guru clad in a white toga and ghandi level of sereneness to fix this goddamn clusterfuck.", BruceN[ ^]
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From what I understoodR. Giskard Reventlov wrote: installed.
will soon becomeR. Giskard Reventlov wrote: installed.
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About two weeks ago, I bought a new SSD for a 6 yo workstation and intended to stay with Win7. After putting a fresh copy of 7 on, it immediately asked for the upgrade to 10. I obliged, and now have 7 on the old drive and 10 on the new one. As far as I can tell, using the same license key on both works just fine and I can switch between the two with no problems...the best of both worlds! 
"Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse
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Just do not tell it to Microsoft...
Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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He just did
If it's not broken, fix it until it is
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From my experience with installing 10, I have learnt the following:
When you upgrade from a legal copy of 7 or 8, the first time you run 10, the machine ID is reported to Microsoft and your 10 installation becomes activated. Your machine is now anointed by the Microsoft servers as eligible for 10. Now you can clean out your systems disk, recreate the partitions if you like, and do a completely clean install of 10. During installation you will be asked twice for the Activation Code. Just click on "Skip this step". When 10 is installed and run for the first time, it will connect to Microsoft and the installation will be activated without a code.
I have now done three machines in this manner and it works. But it essential that you upgrade first, before the clean install, or you will end up paying for an activation code!
How do we preserve the wisdom men will need,
when their violent passions are spent?
- The Lost Horizon
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My upgrade process was a little different than you describe:
0) plug up new drive and install Win 7 from DVD
1) activate the clean 7 installation
2) accept the upgrade offer and enjoy a 'clean' 10 installation
After the new OS was on, I still needed to copy content from the old Win7 disk. I am able to swap the drives and the old OS still functions perfectly as far as I can tell. I suppose one could easily set it up as a dual boot to make switching easier. To be honest, I haven't spent much time at all in the 'old' system lately...just enough to move a few things I forgot to an external drive. It's not reporting any errors, but whether or not it can receive updates remains to be seen. 
"Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse
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Cornelius Henning wrote: But it essential that you upgrade first
That's not entirely true. The latest build, 10586, allows you to do a clean install using a Win 7 or Win 8 install key.
The difficult we do right away...
...the impossible takes slightly longer.
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That is good to know! Thanks!
How do we preserve the wisdom men will need,
when their violent passions are spent?
- The Lost Horizon
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Also there are computers that are listed at Microsoft by OEM and you can clean install W10 on them without any OS on them...
Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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How do you know whether a computer is listed as OEM? I suppose if you yourself installed 7 or 8 from an OEM disc, it's safe to assume it is listed as such, but if you purchased the computer from a retail source??
How do we preserve the wisdom men will need,
when their violent passions are spent?
- The Lost Horizon
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In my case it was an Asus notebook, that got an electric shock, that killed the HDD...So I replaced the HDD and asked Asus support how I can re-install the original OS, and they told that this computer can install W10, so I downloaded it to a DVD and installed...
So the only way I know is to ask the OEM support...
Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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I just noticed: In Control Panel -> System, you can see a "Product ID" code, that has the letters "OEM" at the end. That must indicate an OEM installation?
How do we preserve the wisdom men will need,
when their violent passions are spent?
- The Lost Horizon
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Yes, but that may not mean that the computer already listed at Microsoft...
Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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If the same windows shows "Activated", I am sure it will be listed.
How do we preserve the wisdom men will need,
when their violent passions are spent?
- The Lost Horizon
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If it is a legal OEM installation it must have a Windows OEM Label[^] somewhere (with HP is on the bottom of my wife's laptop and on Dell it is usually under the battery for instance)...You can use that number to install the latest W10 cleanly...
Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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Did you take a close look at all of the privacy settings ?
And the one that can have your system like a bit torrent? Getting and serving content.
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