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rnbergren31-Jul-24 3:56

rnbergren

31-Jul-24 3:56

yes, but like discussed in this message thread. mostly these will be wiped completely clean and afresh install of some Linux variant will be installed. So that should not be an issue for most people here.

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dandy722-Aug-24 4:13

2-Aug-24 4:13

Even if you replace the hard drive altogether, there's still the firmware.

And even if you flash the firmware, you can't trust any newer version if it's from the same guys.

Unlike a router, I've never heard of alternate/third-party firmware for a computer. Heck, you can brick a system from a trusted manufacturer if you get firmware for a system from the same company, but get the model wrong.

RickZeeland30-Jul-24 6:53

RickZeeland

30-Jul-24 6:53

On the NotebookCheck site you can find an interesting list with tests of Mini PC's:
https://www.notebookcheck.net/The-best-mini-PCs.739463.0.html[^]

There is a review of the AOOSTAR GEM12 using both Windows 11 and Ubuntu on this site:
AOOSTAR GEM12 Review: Mini PC with OCuLink, 2.5 GbE LAN and up to Ryzen 7 8845HS - Liliputing[^]

modified 1-Aug-24 1:57am.

honey the codewitch30-Jul-24 7:05

30-Jul-24 7:05

I was about to suggest one of those. Laugh | :laugh:

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pkfox30-Jul-24 10:02

30-Jul-24 10:02

Which one ?

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honey the codewitch30-Jul-24 10:05

30-Jul-24 10:05

I don't have a specific one to recommend. I was going to get one as a low end game machine at one point, so an AMD with something onboard that could run fallout 4. Last time i looked they were like $800 USD on amazon.

But they have all kinds of different varieties, so tell me more about what you want to do with it and I'll dig up a few examples.

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pkfox30-Jul-24 10:11

30-Jul-24 10:11

Thanks, I mainly use it for home .net projects,storing my ~500 gb of music and hosting a couple of lightweight API's which are only used by me

In a closed society where everybody's guilty, the only crime is getting caught. In a world of thieves, the only final sin is stupidity. - Hunter S Thompson - RIP

honey the codewitch30-Jul-24 10:14

30-Jul-24 10:14

On the low end there's this lil guy

https://www.amazon.com/Beelink-Desktop-Computer-Support-Ethernet/dp/B0BVLS7ZHP/ref=sr_1_3?c=ts&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.dqU0JkMyPhtZ9fy6nAX4K8Y7Xia0s96-RUiZG1yvMk-sGlixBtcBiw_z4gH8k3k07Ijes_JfLUNKsfQOHk3xmQ3MN0UaerdRPErO0TjDFmteL1e0wCswCo2VEX9VR3EKf6OYLx80GpcyvOjeV4vZt3ueAMvc0JRfeSSGy0nad3_oHNRcOpXcgikVqFK7tDaaei83NBz-6kLybWZ8wC9eFsbMvDQl6e3p3PNssGZe5hTqBf6DwO31s4W3cAx4Mrn2Kxp7KVl0NTmk9TRrlkTgABvQpaIxU-a3f1cD1N6Pw4M.b1Joe5Poi3peh8IHjZnoiY9y3sSxoz3_wwb4POTO6GM&dib_tag=se&keywords=Mini%2BComputers&qid=1722370345&refinements=p_n_feature_two_browse-bin%3A5446812011&s=pc&sr=1-3&ts_id=13896591011&th=1[^]

However, I'd go with something with twice the space of what you need, for TRIM and other reasons so maybe something like this?

https://www.amazon.com/MOREFINE-M9-Pro-i5-1340P%EF%BC%8812C-Computers/dp/B0CP61FQKT/ref=sr_1_2_sspa?c=ts&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.dqU0JkMyPhtZ9fy6nAX4K8Y7Xia0s96-RUiZG1yvMk-sGlixBtcBiw_z4gH8k3k07Ijes_JfLUNKsfQOHk3xmQ3MN0UaerdRPErO0TjDFmteL1e0wCswCo2VEX9VR3EKf6OYLx80GpcyvOjeV4vZt3ueAMvc0JRfeSSGy0nad3_oHNRcOpXcgikVqFK7tDaaei83NBz-6kLybWZ8wC9eFsbMvDQl6e3p3PNssGZe5hTqBf6DwO31s4W3cAx4Mrn2Kxp7KVl0NTmk9TRrlkTgABvQpaIxU-a3f1cD1N6Pw4M.b1Joe5Poi3peh8IHjZnoiY9y3sSxoz3_wwb4POTO6GM&dib_tag=se&keywords=Mini%2BComputers&qid=1722370345&refinements=p_n_feature_two_browse-bin%3A5446812011&s=pc&sr=1-2-spons&ts_id=13896591011&ufe=app_do%3Aamzn1.fos.c3015c4a-46bb-44b9-81a4-dc28e6d374b3&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9hdGY&th=1[^]

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pkfox30-Jul-24 10:28

30-Jul-24 10:28

Thanks, I want it to be a Linux box so don't want to pay for Windows - I also have a shed load of NVME SSD M2 1 tb drives I can use

In a closed society where everybody's guilty, the only crime is getting caught. In a world of thieves, the only final sin is stupidity. - Hunter S Thompson - RIP

honey the codewitch30-Jul-24 12:34

30-Jul-24 12:34

I mean I don't know of any that don't have Windows pre-installed, but I haven't really looked. Although if the $169 one works, it's like the price of a windows license all in itself. I don't think you'll get it a whole lot cheaper without windows in that particular case.

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jmaida30-Jul-24 16:54

jmaida

30-Jul-24 16:54

I agree. Cheaper than a bag of potting soil.

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MikeD 231-Jul-24 1:01

MikeD 2

31-Jul-24 1:01

two examples of what I call link bloat

It would be so nice if copying a link to pass on could optionally remove everything from the ? forward which I believe is there merely to track us around and prehaps generate advertiser link click money

I find it tedious deleting all this off particularly when forwarding on a phone

honey the codewitch31-Jul-24 2:36

31-Jul-24 2:36

I probably could have sanitized the links to be honest, but it's fiddly work. Roll eyes | :rolleyes:

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trønderen31-Jul-24 10:44

trønderen

31-Jul-24 10:44

Huh?? Marking from the question mark to the end of the URL and pressing the Del key is 'fiddly work'??

Religious freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make five.

honey the codewitch31-Jul-24 11:05

31-Jul-24 11:05

Bothering to look at the url long enough to figure out which parts of the query string are required and which aren't.

I couldn't be bothered. Too fiddly. YMMV.

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dandy7231-Jul-24 3:37

31-Jul-24 3:37

honey the codewitch wrote:
However, I'd go with something with twice the space of what you need

A lot of the Beelink systems come with an M.2/NVMe drive, but also have a free standard SATA slot. Even 128GB is a ton of space for the OS and a few apps, and then I just throw in a spare SSD for bulk data. The insides for the Beelinks are very easy to get to.

honey the codewitch31-Jul-24 6:19

31-Jul-24 6:19

I did not that, and I would have assumed otherwise. Good deal.

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dandy722-Aug-24 4:20

2-Aug-24 4:20

Absolutely.

As mentioned, I have a few of them. There are instances where I picked a model with a smaller/cheaper drive, but just replaced/complemented it with a spare I already had.

Likewise with RAM, I've got systems I intentionally bought with less memory than offered as I replaced it anyway with a separate 64GB kit. Right now I have more spare 8/16GB DDR4 sticks than I'll never need...

pkfox5-Sep-24 22:07

5-Sep-24 22:07

Do the beelinks have any spare M2 2280 slots in them ?

In a closed society where everybody's guilty, the only crime is getting caught. In a world of thieves, the only final sin is stupidity. - Hunter S Thompson - RIP

dandy726-Sep-24 3:31

6-Sep-24 3:31

As a spare, no - most models have a regular SSD (empty) slot for their spare/secondary, while the primary is M.2 (except, I believe, for their cheapest models, which might not even be made anymore).

Although I'm not sure about physical dimensions; your best bet is to check with BeeLink itself (https://www.bee-link.com/), since Amazon listings are often not 100% accurate.

charlieg31-Jul-24 1:16

charlieg

31-Jul-24 1:16

$800 seems extremely expensive...

then again, looking at piece parts at Home Depot, I'm stunned.

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“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759

Has never been more appropriate.

honey the codewitch31-Jul-24 1:50

31-Jul-24 1:50

They're usually around $300. Sometimes about half that.

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rnbergren30-Jul-24 9:16

rnbergren

30-Jul-24 9:16

Thankyou. Did not know about this site. Good info

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Roger Wright30-Jul-24 20:16

Roger Wright

30-Jul-24 20:16

I just received a Geekom IT13, rated #4 in your list, and I'm trying to decide what to do with it. It's a bit more powerful than the full-sixed tower I7 machine I built a year ago, and about half the cost.

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