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Can I have his job? I'd love to work in C#! I'm looking right now.
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If your colleague really wants to be an idiot, there's nothing stopping them from using some antique line-oriented editor (remember DEC's SOS editor from the 1970s?, or maybe emacs on a VT-100 terminal) to edit their program and using visual studio's command-line tools to compile it. There's even a way to install just the command-line compiler and linker. Horrible as it sounds, that's how google's Chromium project compiles for windows.
I suspect your colleague's disdain for C# probably goes deeper than that. Visual Studio's IDE is really quite productive, though I also like Eclipse (when it isn't crashing on me).
Sigh.
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I think you guys are missing the point.
A good text editor has nothing to do with notepad (I think notepad++ isn't a satisfactory improvement).
I work daily with SublimeText, and I assure you I'm more productive and learned a lot than when I used Visual Studio/C#. Like your coworker, I defended a platform change in our company. We have successfully migrated our C# solution, that ran only in Windows, in a Django/Python service. I had fights with my teammates at the time, it wasn't a soft transition, but there's a lot of advantages, we ship code better and faster than never.
I doubt that anyone code in Visual Studio faster than an expert vim programmer. I've seen one of them in a Google keynote about Angular.js, they are insanely fast.
There's no reason to develop a serious application in a closed platform, which project itself is a great failure (they copied the JIT compiler thing from Java, except that Java does it because it's multiplatform, opposed to .NET -- Mono is buggy and very very unofficial). The worst part is that a single company that controls everything. The best thing that happened to software development was open source, an having a good community around it makes the difference The community around C# is poor, partially because they can't have a role in the language/framework development. "Open source" doesn't mean I'm saying "linux rules windows sucks", I'm talking about reusing code/components from someone else. You do it everyday, except that the guys who write the code you reuse are Microsoft employees pressed to keep old standards, the code that I use are from passionated developers around the world.
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Suppose, if you really wanted to, one could draw an entire 2015 Dodge Viper in 3d via the Autocad commandline,
Of course most would likely prefer the IDE
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You do not need an IDE to program C#.
You can always use any text editor and csc.exe. (C-Sharp Compiler)
If you have dotNET, you have csc.exe.
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I have been invited to a Google Hangouts conversation.
Never used it before; don't have the first clue.
I just Googled GOOGLE HANGOUTS[^] and I'm following as best I can.
I'm not sure, but I think our company E-Mail administrator has already set up a Google Hangouts account for me. I hope to have this knowledge under control by bedtime tonight.
I've downloaded fifteen video clips from YouTube which purport to explain them.
With that in mind, I'm going to invoke my own Do-It-Yourself Google Hangouts training school this evening, and see if I can become competent enough for Monday Morning when this guy wants to talk.
I'm really not following the reasoning on all this; but that's good because I'll probably learn something. It just doesn't make sense to me that Google would feel the need to create this when, as best I can tell, Skype would work just fine.
Feedback, comments, and advice are welcome; indeed, eagerly invited.
Oh,,,, and if anyone wants to spend ten minutes as my practice dummy on google hangouts, you'd be doing me a favor.
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Skype would work just fine.
Did you forget who owns Skype.
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Aha.
Yes I did.
Good thinking brain there.
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Still clicking on every link I see on my screen.
Some of them work; most do nothing.
Does Google Hangouts work on a desktop Windows PC ?
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What gives with this message ?
Google+ is not available for your organization (zyxwvutsrqp.com). Please contact your administrator to enable this service for at least one user in the organization.
Is it a free app or not ?
Can I install it on a PC or not ?
I keep arriving on an android screen.
Huh ?
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Yesterday I was cutting code in Visual Studio 2015,
Today I was cutting meadow grass with a scythe.
Ireland is a very strange place.
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Duncan Edwards Jones wrote: I was cutting meadow grass with a scythe
You Luddite, with your hand tools!! Afraid of advanced technology are ye?
Duncan Edwards Jones wrote: I was cutting code in Visual Studio 2015
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Recently I noticed that my new(er) computer (i7, 8Gb Ram, 1TB drive) reports that I've used something like 392GB of my availalbe 921GB.
It looks like this:
http://newtonsaber.com/images/codeproj/drivestats1.png[^]
I thought that sounded like a lot, because I have basically nothing on the machine.
I examined c:\windows\ thinking maybe 8.1 was large: About 20GB in there.
Next I examined all Program Files (x86), Program Files (64), and ProgramData dirs and they equaled about 20Gb.
I was really stumped so I selected all folders on my drive and examined them and it said I had 127GB used. What?
You can see it at:
http://newtonsaber.com/images/codeproj/drivestats2.png[^]
Okay, so there are hidden files on Windows Systems and maybe other explanations for this?!? Anyone got any explanations?
I'm talking about 260GB of space or something. What would that be? That's a lot of data space.
Plus, that's double what I'm supposedly using when examining via File Explorer.
I just don't get it. Is this acceptable and expected?
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No idea?? How much space is taken up by your System Restore files? Just another reason I am grateful I dumped 8.1 and went back to Windows 7! When Win 10 settles down, I'll jump straight to 10.
How do we preserve the wisdom men will need,
when their violent passions are spent?
- The Lost Horizon
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Thanks for replying. And your question is a good one.
I checked it out in Computer Management => Disk Management though and the other space for recovery partitions seem to be taken into account. But again, Disk Management also reports that 57% of my 921GB is taken up.
You can see it in this snapshot of disk management.
http://newtonsaber.com/images/codeproj/drivestats3.png[^]
I greatly appreciate any input on this. It's quite crazy.
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Did you go to Control Panel -> System -> System Protection -> Click on System Drive -> Configure ..... to check the disk space consumed by Restore Points?
How do we preserve the wisdom men will need,
when their violent passions are spent?
- The Lost Horizon
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Cornelius Henning wrote: check the disk space consumed by Restore Points?
Thanks, that is a great one. Didn't know about it.
I t is only at 3.32 GB at the moment though.
Thanks for the input and ideas on this.
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newton.saber wrote: I was really stumped so I selected all folders on my drive and examined them and it said I had 127GB used. What?
Does it include page file and hibernate file? Guess they are around 32GB in total for your system.
<edit>
Are you logged in with administrator account? Are you sure that your account has permission to all directories?
Also: http://blogs.msdn.com/b/ntdebugging/archive/2008/07/03/ntfs-misreports-free-space.aspx[^]
</edit>
modified 1-Aug-15 19:03pm.
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Mladen Janković wrote: page file and hibernate file?
I was wondering about the page file and wasn't sure.
I do have a hibernate file -- meaning I do use hibernate and i love it --, but that is crazy if it takes like a 100GB or something.
So, let's say that the Hibernate file and the page file are 100GB together, then I'm still missing another 160GB. And if those two files really take up 260GB that is just sick. Sick!
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Volume shadow copies?
Try vssadmin at an elevated prompt.
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dandy72 wrote: vssadmin at an elevated prompt.
Wow, I tried that out. I've been using Windows since version 3.0 and I've never heard of that tool.
I'm sure it wasn't in Windows 3.0 though.
Anyways, I ran the tool but don't know exactly what it even means.
I guess what I'm learning is :
Windows eats up your hard drive and that is all there is to say about that.j
"All in the name of safety and protection, we've destroyed your life. But, at least the bad guys didn't compromise you." ~The "Good" Guys
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And did you check your privileges? (hehe) I mean for real, file ACLs and stuff.
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I think it was introduced with Vista.
To make a long story short, try:
vssadmin.exe delete shadows /all
...and see if you regain any space.
And as others have written - try windirstat
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Personally I show all files including the hidden and system files on every system I work on.
You could start at the root and work your way from there narrowing down the largest folders off of the root and keep working your way down untill you find the hog.
It is possible that it could be the (Hidden) System restore/ Volume shadow copy folder.
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Try WinDirStat[^]
It's free, and it should tell you what is hogging your drive.
What do you get when you cross a joke with a rhetorical question?
The metaphorical solid rear-end expulsions have impacted the metaphorical motorized bladed rotating air movement mechanism.
Do questions with multiple question marks annoy you???
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