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I have had more problems with Windows 8.1 and Windows 10. On both I have had Office 2010 fail on both. This did not happen on Windows 7 (also on Windows 8.1 did not have Office 2007). Also these OSs no longer support DVDs without special software. Microsoft says it no longer needs to support DVDs because they are obsolete. I am sorry, but there are many titles that cannot be downloaded, and there is also the issue being on the internet to use online material, and also need the internet performance. Basically Microsoft is providing BS on why it should not support DVDs. In the meantime, Microsoft is just providing additional reasons for not buying PCs. Maybe the time of the PC is gone, but apparently the fall in PC sales corresponded to the release of Windows 8. All I can say is that I am moving back to Windows 7.
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Clifford Nelson wrote: Microsoft says it no longer needs to support DVDs because they are obsolete.
I laugh. A few weeks back I installed Win 10, plus Visual Studio .next CTP, and SQL Server 2014. Of course I needed to have the OS on a disk, but VS installed as an ISO mounted as a virtual disk just fine. Not so for SQL Server. I tried a bunch of times before finally burning the ISO to a disk and using it.
I did not try Office -- I use Office 2003 anyway.
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PIEBALDconsult wrote: Of course I needed to have the OS on a disk
Not really, you can install from usb-stick. (if you'r interested in how just google it, plenty of articles about it)
My new desktop doesn't have a dvd-bay anymore, I can't even remember when the last time was I used a cd/dvd.
PIEBALDconsult wrote: Not so for SQL Server
Really?
Haven't had any problems with installing just from hdd (on windows 7 and 8.1, haven't tried 10 yet)
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No DVD, No CD support, im done... all my epic Games from 1992 to 2000 are gone?
(Don't remind me about the floppys)
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Clifford Nelson wrote: Also these OSs no longer support DVDs without special software
You are referring only to films, aren't you?
In my windows 8.1 machine I can use DVD's and CDROMS without any issue...
Still not tried Windows 10...
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Why should you need DVDs, when you can pay MS to store everything on-line for you?
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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My 8.1 lappie doesn't have a DVD bay, so I just bought a cheap USB one and plugged it in.
It installed the drivers and just worked.
Alcohol 120% works fine, too. I opened several ISOs to install all the cr@p I use.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Clifford Nelson wrote: Office 2010
Been running it for two years now on Win8 & Win8.1 without a single glitch.
Clifford Nelson wrote: Also these OSs no longer support DVDs without special software
Not sure what you mean, but my "out of the box" Media player plays DVDs, and the Windows Explorer ... explores DVD as well.
I googled for it and found this : http://www.howtogeek.com/127774/how-to-play-dvds-on-windows-8/[^]  Now my question for tonight when I am back on my home machine : what the elephant gets fired up when I click on a video DVD ???
You are probably ranting because still irritated by something not working, but I do not think that Microsoft is probably not involved in it.
And I just cannot believe that I have just written that. 
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Rage wrote: I do not think that Microsoft is probably not involved in it.
Yeah, seems unlikely in the light of Windows 8..
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Clifford Nelson wrote: Also these OSs no longer support DVDs without special software.
As Joan said, that's only for playing films on DVD. Data DVDs work fine, both for reading and writing.
The reason isn't "BS"; to include DVD playback, Microsoft would have to pay to license the relevant codecs, which would increase the cost of the OS.
VLC Player[^] will let you watch DVDs without paying for the Media Center Pack. Commercial Blu-Ray playback is much harder due to the encryption, but Google has a few suggestions if you need it.
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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Quote: On both I have had Office 2010 fail on both
Never had any issues with Office 2010 on either
Quote: Also these OSs no longer support DVDs without special software.
VLC takes like a minute to install
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I'm with you. I use Office 2013 on 8.1 and never even a hiccup. I also have a media PC that I play my music and DVDs through - also 8.1.
I've not used Wen yet and probably won't for quite some time.
I suggest that the cause of the issues stated lies elsewhere.
Life is like a s**t sandwich; the more bread you have, the less s**t you eat.
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They are very impatient in my new Brisbane job for me to come!
So impatient in fact that, as I am stuck in Darwin until the 15, I just started to work remotely! 
My first job: produce an architectural document!
Woa, first time I was asked to produce such (usually I just go away and do it).
Well I guess with money comes responsibility and reports!
Here we go, Word document!  
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Oh noes! Grown up work!
cheers
Chris Maunder
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Is that the cyborg?
Feels like forever since I read any comics.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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He is the head of SHIELD. And he is, in fact, a hydra agent!
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Hmm. Google says I was thinking of Donald Pierce.
Seems that they think "Pierce" requires a Scottish forename.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Totally different!
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Done by toddlers.
This is the infrastructure we stand on.
Sometimes, it's almost exciting!
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We follow agile. No documentation. Just code.
Long back, we'd heard a term called 'ad-hoc'. They've renamed it as ....
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A-G-I-L-E 
[Jokes apart, agile has worked for us. All documentation (along with planning and tracking trail) is in the agile tool itself.
We've achieved much more in the last three years with agile, than in the earlier three-year period, which was semi-waterfall.]
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yeah, like it too!!
I guess they just to see how I am thinking, this is not a spec... more like a draft!
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Our place thinks they do agile.
the documentation in the agile tool (TFS) tends to be things like "fix the bug"!
So helpful!
PooperPig - Coming Soon
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Congratulations, and (possibly) deep sympathies !
cheers, Bill
«I'm asked why doesn't C# implement feature X all the time. The answer's always the same: because no one ever designed, specified, implemented, tested, documented, shipped that feature. All six of those things are necessary to make a feature happen. They all cost huge amounts of time, effort and money.» Eric Lippert, Microsoft, 2009
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Thanks Bill, always some tongue in cheek words coming from ya! 
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