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Remember the frustration created by Windows Vista? Windows 7 saved the day. The user experience of Windows 8 may not be as bad as Vista but is not as positive as Windows 7 either. Is Windows 9 going to save the day?
TOMZ_KV
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For Microsoft's sake, I damn well hope so... 
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Even 5 years ago, no one would expect to see today's Microsoft.
TOMZ_KV
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What running around madly like a headless chicken with little or no idea of what it's going to do about the competition?
No, you're probably right.
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It is a historic moment for Microsoft shifting from software to devices & services. Windows phone has not been doing well so far. Apple experienced the transition years ago and did well.
TOMZ_KV
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I can see where they would want to: but they made the usual MS mistake of ignoring existing users.
If they had run "devices" and "software" as separate divisions instead of trying to force incompatible environments together into one it could all have been very different. And probably a lot more successful.
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Microsoft was able to recover in the past. See how it goes this time with Windows 9.
TOMZ_KV
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Tomz_KV wrote: Apple experienced the transition years ago and did well.
There were a couple important differences with Apple:
1. Apple was ALWAYS a hardware company.
2. Apple had hit rock bottom in sales, market share, profits...
Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master. ~ George Washington
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Good points. Microsoft is doing hardware now: Surface tablet & Windows phone. It is a question if Microsoft is able to catch up.
TOMZ_KV
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Don't think of them as bad and good... Think of them as Beta and RTM.
Windows Vista was a Beta product, and Windows 7 was the RTM version.
Windows 8 is the next Beta, and Windows 9 will be the RTM.
Microsoft has just gotten a little confused in recent years... They can't tell the difference between an end user and a beta tester anymore.
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So we'll never have a real Windows. 
TOMZ_KV
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Ian Shlasko wrote: [Micro$oft] can't could never tell the difference between an end user and a beta tester anymore ever.
FTFY 
Once you lose your pride the rest is easy.
I would agree with you but then we both would be wrong.
The report of my death was an exaggeration - Mark Twain
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JimmyRopes
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How do you define recent years?
To me it seems that they have always done that.
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Jörgen Andersson wrote: How do you define recent years?
To me it seems that they have always done that.
Yes they have. 
Once you lose your pride the rest is easy.
I would agree with you but then we both would be wrong.
The report of my death was an exaggeration - Mark Twain
Simply Elegant Designs JimmyRopes Designs
I'm on-line therefore I am.
JimmyRopes
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Tomz_KV wrote: ot as positive as Windows 7
Windows 7 and Xp were almost identical. Win8 would also have had a great reception if it had been a clone of Win7.
People demand new but do not like changes, that's it.
~RaGE();
I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus
Entropy isn't what it used to.
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Interesting enough that Microsoft likes to change graphic interface drastically more than the functionality.
TOMZ_KV
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What pleases the eye...
~RaGE();
I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus
Entropy isn't what it used to.
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Exactly; improvements to the underlying kernel and such should not require such a change in the Interface.
I'd prefer the Windows 3 Interface on top of the current Operating System -- combining the two (OS and UI) is not a good idea (in my opinion).
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PIEBALDconsult wrote: Exactly; improvements to the underlying kernel and such should not require such a change in the Interface.
Everyone sees it but Microsoft. Hard to believe.
TOMZ_KV
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People usually don't demand very much at all. Mickeysoft usually tries to tell everybody what they should demand so that they have a reason to release a new version.
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
I hold an A-7 computer expert classification, Commodore. I'm well acquainted with Dr. Daystrom's theories and discoveries. The basic design of all our ship's computers are JavaScript.
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Microsoft: "if you build it, they will come".
TOMZ_KV
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Tomz_KV wrote: "if you build it, they will come bend over".
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Windows is and never will be a finished product.
It always evolves; but never in a straight line; sometimes it backtrack or sidesteps.
I'd rather be phishing!
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It also does the hokey-pokey.
All while you shower it with $$$$$.
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great business model!!! 
I'd rather be phishing!
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