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If you really want help, using the right words would help people help you. If you just want to complain, can't help you anyway.
If you're trying to cut and paste, it took about 10 seconds to look up Command-Option-V, which changes copy paste to cut and paste. I tried it and it worked fine cutting and pasting a couple files. Command-C to copy, Command-Option-V to paste. A little different than others, not too bad.
There's other things on that page that could help you too it seems.
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To navigate up and down folders in UNIX and Linux, including a Mac, you "cd .." to move up, "cd /" to get to the root of the file system, just like any *Nix and it works fine. If you don't have permission that's a feature, not being able to, and if you have the password Macs let you sudo and su just fine, pretty much like Ubuntu. I prefer the Mac interface flavor, but that's personal style and preference. I can see some people liking things more stripped down or whatever but it works pretty good for me. I like that I have full UNIX, full sudo/root control, and I think the interface AND commercial package support beats every Linux I've tried from Debian, Ubuntu, Fedora, CentOS and even Mandrake back in the day. I doubt you tried it "in earnest" though, because you seem smart and it took seconds to look up how to cut and paste. I admit, I just dragged or copied and deleted, but it took seconds to find out how, once I cared to look. If you're talking about Chrome's programming not letting you move up and down the system, that's a chrome thing, not a Mac thing. Maybe google does that on purpose to Mac users I don't use chrome though, so can't help you there. If you like chrome, I'd give aviator browser a shot, much more secure and private, and it's based on chromium. https://www.whitehatsec.com/aviator/[^]
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"Nope, first of all you have to use "windows" key in place of ctrl, OK that's just a who moved my cheese thing, but really, every other OS I've used uses ctrl."
Ironically, the Mac OS was the first commercial GUI and when they sued Microsoft for copying code in Windows one of the arguments was "look, you've even used all of our shortcut keys, c for copy, v for paste..." The reality is that Microsoft moved the command key to control because non-Mac keyboards didn't have a command key. Newer keyboards later added the alt and windows keys, but the shortcuts were already mapped to the control key at that point.
"Only windows-x doesn't cut the folder, it didn't even seem to copy properly. One of the regular mac users said it doesn't work, you have to copy, then delete, or use a mouse like a peasant."
The Mac OS was designed for use with a mouse. A simple drag and drop suffices for most uses. You can hold down combinations of the command key, shift key, and option key while dragging to copy, move, or create a shortcut.
"I can only seem to save to the equivalent of MyDocuments, or subfolders within it, no apparent way to even go up in the folder hierarchy."
Not sure if you were in a save dialog box, Finder, or terminal, but in the Finder command (windows key) clicking the title bar will give you the folder hierarchy in a pull down menu. The save dialog box has a similar feature. I'm not near a Mac so I can't tell you exactly how, but it's there.
Terminal is the same as any other *nix. Be aware though that the *nix OSes moved the dir command to ls.
I'm much more comfortable using Mac OS X than any other operating systems (even though I make my living in a Windows only environment), most everything feels more natural to me. I have run into the "Why can't I cut and paste a file" issue before, but most of my gripes go the other way -like if I select a bunch of files and double click on the selected group why does Windows only open one file? (or press ctrl-O while a group of files is selected for that matter) Or why can't I select the text in a Windows dialog box to paste somewhere else? (On a Mac, not only can you select the text, you can drag and drop it to the desktop to create a text clipping file)
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Have you ever used Automator? It is amazing for a *Nix machine to have this level of... GUI Automation..
I haven't used it much but to create a Finder "service" to show/hide hidden files, but it's got all kinds of crazy options.
But Command-Option-V moves, or "cuts and pastes", and in Finder Edit menu, Option changes "Paste Item" to "Move Item Here". So far most anything I've wanted I've been able to do with a lot of easier power with a Mac, but sometimes you do have to look a few things up since they're different of course. It's weird to think that Mac's different because Windows copied them with a twist back in the day...
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Keith wrote:
"Actually it isn't. Want to move a folder? Ctrl-x --> correct destination --> Crtl-v.
Nope, first of all you have to use "windows" key in place of ctrl, OK that's just a who moved my cheese thing, but really, every other OS I've used uses ctrl."
Since the Mac UI was created, this has been true. Windows was not developed until Mac OS was already established. So it really was Windows that isn't following the model.
Nice try, though.
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Br.
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On the matter of "command" (ie the 4 leaf clover thingy, or wavy windows thingy key), there is a matter of history. Early Macs did not have a control key - eg the Mac Plus, and so for programs requiring control key - eg terminal emulators - the command key was used. Only in later incarnations was a separate control key added to the Mac keyboards.
Conversely, the wavy windows key was only added quite recently to PC keyboards - and ISTM its only use was to act as a "command" key when plugged into Macintoshes, or (as I discovered recently) where MS put the start menu on Windows 8.
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I agree that OSX should have these things and make this easier, but you should also be aware of the following:
It was the Mac that first had the Cmd+X, Cmd+C and Cmd+V for cut/copy/paste, before anyone else. They're the ones that came up with those keystrokes. When Windows copied the Mac, they duplicated those, but the IBM keyboard didn't have a Cmd key, nor did it have a Windows key at the time, so Microsoft chose to standardize on the Ctrl key.
The Ctrl key on the Mac was hardly used. Ctrl is key that's holdover from terminal days.
When the Mac and PC, hardware and software started to become more integrated, using common keyboards and mice, VNC, RDP sessions, etc., someone chose to map the now-common win key to Mac's Cmd key. Every other key was already mapped. Only Windows keyboards had the Win key, and only Mac keyboards had the Cmd key, so it made sense to map the two.
At the same time they mapped the PC's Alt key to the Mac's Option key. In my opinion, this was a mistake because of the placement of the keys on the keyboard. It's bad enough that you have to remember to use Win+C to copy on a Mac using a Windows keyboard, now you have to use the Cmd key when using a Mac keyboard with a PC when you want to hit the Win key. The Alt/Win key are swapped, which makes it difficult to use Windows on a Mac if you use both a Windows keyboard and a Mac keyboard.
Someone should fix all this. I say Apple buy Microsoft.
ken@kasajian.com / www.kasajian.com
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And while they're at it, let's see if someone can come up with some consistent mapping of the Home/End/PgUp/PgDn keys between Parallels, VMWare and Remote Desktop. It's a mess, especially when inconsistencies exist within the OSX ecosystem itself.
ken@kasajian.com / www.kasajian.com
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I really do amaze myself sometimes. I'm trying to be super clevererer and well...
Take one application running on multiple threads. Create a request on one thread, reply on another and...
It all falls over because the reply comes back before the request has finished being processed and added to the pending queue.
Clever Vilmos, here stand under this large stick for a while...
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That reminds me of when I was first doing stuff with AJAX and wondered why I didn't get any results. Same situation as yours, although I was thinking of wearing a dunce hat
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Amateur.
Regards,
Rob Philpott.
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There are actually three levels of threads - host, service and process - and it was a loop around call, a process call to the host, that started things going fubar.
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Nagy Vilmos wrote:
There are actually three levels of stick FTFY - 0) stick, 1) sh!tty stick, 2) one with spikes in it.
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Lack of imagination
I can think of a few more levels, where at least one is involving a cactus (unshaved)
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What is the number of times I've done this?
New version: WinHeist Version 2.1.0 Beta
Have you ever just looked at someone and knew the wheel was turning but the hamster was dead?
Trying to understand the behavior of some people is like trying to smell the color 9.
I'm not crazy, my reality is just different than yours!
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Movie Quote Of The Day
Take the biggest guy in the world, shatter his knee and he'll drop like a stone.
Which Movie?
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Friends with stone abilities
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It is certainly an idea. An idea for whoever thought up that bloody franchise.
:rollsEyesThinkingOfDaughtersWatchingThatCrap:
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Have you watched all the movies you are quoting from ?
~RaGE();
I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus
Entropy isn't what it used to.
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more than 90% of them I have seen at least once in my lifetime
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Theater or @ home ?
In my previous life (when I still was a SINK), I used to go about thrice a week at the theater. I have seen all the blockbusters from that time, plus lots of less famous movies that were also very interesting, and most of them in original version ( Once I even went to a movie and did not see it was Vietnamese, so after five minutes, I went out again to watch something else as I realized that they definitely would not speak english ).
My best theater experience was definitely "Lost in translation" : Great movie, and the mood in the theater that night was just perfect.
~RaGE();
I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus
Entropy isn't what it used to.
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Rage wrote: Theater or @ home
both
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Watch out, you might give away your age grandad. Especially since Jesse James[^] was released in 1939. And most of the others in 1970s
Must have been fun growing up in the drive in era where colour were a royalty
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