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... 'Shine on you Crazy Diamond', one of the few side-long tracks I can bear to hear
Beauty cannot be defined by abscissas and ordinates; neither are circles and ellipses created by their geometrical formulas.
Carl von Clausewitz
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Excellent song...love the whole album, or for that matter most everything they've done.
If first you don't succeed, hide all evidence you ever tried!
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What about "Atom Heart Mother"? And "Echoes"?
Veni, vidi, vici.
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CPallini wrote: "Atom Heart Mother"? And "Echoes"?
Saved them for the next build 
Beauty cannot be defined by abscissas and ordinates; neither are circles and ellipses created by their geometrical formulas.
Carl von Clausewitz
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I think the CP house band will soon be performing "While my compiler gently weeps" 
Soren Madsen
"When you don't know what you're doing it's best to do it quickly" - Jase #DuckDynasty
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Or Pocket Calculator by Kraftwerk[^] if your equipment is a little out of date...
Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952)
Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)
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Thank you, but my wife says my equipment is just fine 
Soren Madsen
"When you don't know what you're doing it's best to do it quickly" - Jase #DuckDynasty
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I'm not going there! Not in the lounge... 
Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952)
Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)
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Veni, vidi, vici.
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If only it were that simple 
It's an OO world.
public class SanderRossel : Lazy<Person>
{
public void DoWork()
{
throw new NotSupportedException();
}
}
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Been there more than a few times.
(Leunig is so good.)
"Rock journalism is people who can't write interviewing people who can't talk for people who can't read." Frank Zappa 1980
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Hey all. I'm just gonna stick a TL;DR warning here. I'm explaining my motives and where I'm coming from in the next paragraph, but if you don't have time for stories, feel free to skip it.
So, I've figured out that coding is something I really enjoy doing. And I've also figured out that my best shot at getting long-term employment somewhere I'll truly enjoy my job involves both getting a degree and building a portfolio. I tried going to college a few years ago for mechanical engineering, not really knowing what I wanted to do. I was immature and pursuing the wrong thing, so I quickly burnt out, losing my scholarships and good loans. Luckily, it happened quickly enough that I didn't get incredible amounts of debt piled on top of me. At this point, I've discovered through sites like Udacity that I really enjoy coding, and feel secure that a computer science degree is what I want to pursue. However, I need to build capital for the initial push through some community college to prove to the loan companies that I won't burn out again. I'm working at Wal-mart for now, but it's driving me a bit stir-crazy.
To put it simply, I'm looking to find out what area, possibly language, of coding I should be putting my effort into studying for now in order to get work, freelance or otherwise. I'm not looking for great pay, just enough so that I can sock some money away to get through a year or two of community college. I'd love to 'do what interests me most', but that's games, and it is a harsh world for a game developer. And when it comes down to it, I just enjoy coding and solving problems.
I'm hoping there's an area with enough demand, and low enough barrier of entry for someone with their programming basics down, that I could at least start approaching part-time minimum wage money within a few months. I'll take 14 hour days in front of an IDE over 9 hour days stocking bananas any day.
EDIT: I should probably mention that I haven't just been doing online lessons. I've created a number of things on my own, most of which are sorta partially-completed games in Unity. I've also done a few bits and bobs in Python.
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I worked retail while I got my two-year degree. Then my four-year degree required a co-op job.
You'll never get very far if all you do is follow instructions.
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I worked shift work in a factory making turbine blades while I studied. It was hard. Used to borrow my sisters laptop when I was on nights to write programs. 
"The whole idea that carbon dioxide is the main cause of the recent global warming is based on a guess that was proved false by empirical evidence during the 1990s." climate-models-go-cold
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First, Welcome to CodeProject!
Second, from what I understand, it's pretty difficult to get a programming job without a degree (Disclaimer: I'm only heading for my first year of college now).
If you happen to be really, really good at what you do and you're a quick learner you may have a chance, though.
I do hope you have a success story to share eventually
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Welcome!
Remember, a programming language is just a means to put your programming skills to use. That being said, you have 3 broad choices: Java (for the server and Android world), Objective-C (for the MacOS/iOS world) and C# (for the Microsoft world). Picking up any of these languages is not terribly difficult - it takes time and effort, but it's not rocket science.
That part that is challenging is learning the fundamentals of software engineering. You can go to school for this, learn it "on the job", learn it by building lots of apps that people actually use, or any combination of these.
Good luck and stay the course. If you think you love writing software, you've come to the right place.
/ravi
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If I were young again and just starting out... (OH! to be young again!)
You need to learn a language and learn it well - one you have one language under your belt, others are relatively easy to pick up.
But if I had my time again, right now this is what I would learn:
HTML5 / CSS Not just the basics, but learn it well. to the point where you can create a web page to someone's specification - and then change it easily when they change their minds.
Javascript & JQuery. Become a guru. JS programmers are 10 a penny - but few of them know it in-depth. Make sure you are confident with how JS works - 'cause it's a bugger of a bad language but it is ubiquitous.
Now you can develop an app that will run on pretty much every device out there - so far so good.
But you need to communicate with the back end sometime...
Learn sufficient SQL that you can create tables, store data in them and retrieve that data. Sequencing and filtering the data as required.
Learn how to write a web service that can use the SQL you write to get or Put data to your database
Learn how to use that web service from your javascript.
I know you'd probably like a "Use this language" for the back end stuff - but if it was me (oh! for a time machine) I'd look around and choose a product you want to build to showcase your skills - and choose an appropriate back end to suit - then learn the technology.
So you could use Ruby / rails or Python or (ugh!) PHP, Node.js or .Net - I would investigate them all and decide which makes more sense to you - and which looks more fun! (currently I'd probably go for Ruby but for no really good reason)
Similarly with the database - you could use SQL server, MySQL or Oracle, or even something completely different - but some flavour of SQL will help your job prospects.
Once you have most of these skills you are potentially employable- you might find some small company willing to sling some money your way to set up a small web app for them (or just do it out of the goodness of your heart for your local soccer team, cafe or whatever) It's always best to have a real project to hone your skills on.
Good Luck.
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I'm actually far less interested in suggestions for the exact languages, which so many other people tend to focus on, rather than just what area to work on. And, as I expected, it seems web development is where the money is right now.
I actually already know which language I prefer for the backend: Python. Not a popular choice, but it's nice, clean, and I have experience with it. I'd do .Net, but it limits any backends I work on to Windows servers, which isn't the best choice for tight budgets.
I have some basic web development skills, though nothing in-depth. I really suffer when it comes to anything visual, so CSS is my weakest suit. An example of something I've done as a test is this: http://proofofconceptiso.appspot.com Not too much there, but it has a working registration system with hashed and salted passwords, as well as a small pachinko game in Unity that allows you to get points and buy 'items' (really just another kind of point) which are stored to your account.
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As you say visual design is your weakest suit, I would try to steer clear of anything graphical (like a game!)
But it is worth learning the CSS so that you know how to achieve what is required;
if a company wants a web site done, or an app designed, you can always ask that pretty girl down the road who's doing an arts degree to design something on paper - if you have the CSS and HTML skills then you should be able to replicate it.
Python isn't too bad at all, from what I've seen - and it is better to start with something you know and get good at it; once you have all-round skills, learning another language for a part of the stack is just a case of using Google to translate concepts from one to the other!
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Try Intel. They've a reputation for hiring people without degrees but demonstrated experience. Try also calling up local tech employment search agencies and let them know you're looking for parttime work, $10 an hour. Try also the local gov't employment agency, believe it or not there are lots of programming jobs, especially hourly ones, listed there.
If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein
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Member 10883470 wrote: What should I be practicing to quickly find part-time work?
Practice saying "would you like fries with that? ".
Once you lose your pride the rest is easy.
I would agree with you but then we both would be wrong.
The report of my death was an exaggeration - Mark Twain
Simply Elegant Designs JimmyRopes Designs
I'm on-line therefore I am.
JimmyRopes
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He better hurry too because McD's is going to be installing kiosks that take your order soon, which will of course allow many thousands more people time to pursue their dreams.
If first you don't succeed, hide all evidence you ever tried!
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C++ and C# will always be dominant in the market and give you the best chance of getting a job.
It doesn't matter if you have a degree though, do a programming course, and go for interviews, and SHOW KEENESS!
That's the MOST important thing, An intelligent guy, with a programming qualification, who is enthusiastic and looks like an easy guy to work with is going to get hired.
And take ANY salary for your first job, you are in your CV and experience building mode of your career, not in the big bucks earing mode, that will come later.
Build your experience up, work hard, and never give up on solving a problem. Switch jobs every 1.5 to 2 years, don't stay longer, and ramp up your salary.
When you get to about 6 to 10 years experience, you can go contracting, but you need to be really motivated, a real self starter, a real solution deliverer who takes the initiative when you contract. You don't wait for things to happen, you make them happen. That's how you deliver and get your contract picked up again.
And the cardinal rule. NEVER CHECK ON CODE AS COMPLETE WHEN YOU KNOW IT HAS BUGS. Take responsibility for your code.
Do that and you will have a good and rewarding career, its worked out freeing amazing for me!
"The whole idea that carbon dioxide is the main cause of the recent global warming is based on a guess that was proved false by empirical evidence during the 1990s." climate-models-go-cold
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I'm trying to get hold of people who are working, or have worked, at TradeStation in Fort Lauderdale for their views on the company. Feel free to reply privately.
I'm also curious if anyone has done contract work through TekPartners?
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