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In that case I have to ask - how much it was to create that great computer was able to pass Turing test? I'm sure that I can 'build' hundreds of teenagers from the amount wasted there. And every one of them can pass Turing test with no problem...
I'm not questioning your powers of observation; I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is. (V)
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But can it beat the Leslie Nielsen test?
If first you don't succeed, hide all evidence you ever tried!
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Why Leslie? It's only the 3rd time today...
I'm not questioning your powers of observation; I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is. (V)
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He's got a good makeup artist!
If first you don't succeed, hide all evidence you ever tried!
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It's a joke, besides the fraud of having subject and judge be in two different cultures and age groups and the lack of controls, Eugene simply isn't very good. Eugene is now publicly available (sometimes) and I asked:
Me - Who's your favorite pop star?
Eugene - My little nice guinea pig. Oooh. Anything else?
Later:
Me - What did you have for breakfast this morning?
Eugene - Is it "the third degree"? I'm not going to answer such a provocative question! Oooh. Anything else?
Me - What's for dinner?
Eugene - Errrr... Frankly, I didn't get your question. Oh, what a fruitful conversation
I suspect several judges went in wanted to believe all the subjects were human and a few more are just idiots.
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"30% of the people are very easy to fool." - Abraham Lincoln.
Peter Wasser
"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts." - Bertrand Russell
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pwasser wrote: "30% of the people are very easy to fool." - Abraham Lincoln. I really doubt he said that.
Oh, wait a second.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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I'm 30% convinced you're human.
Peter Wasser
"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts." - Bertrand Russell
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And 70% convinced that he is a terminator,
Shuvro
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ridoy wrote: For the first time in the history of AI, a computer beats the famous "Turing Test"!
No.
Eugene pretended to be 13 years-old and from a different Country. Thus giving an excuse for his bad English and not understanding questions.
Turing made reference to a child, but only as a process stage to developing a fully functional 'adult' machine.
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This is very preliminary information gathering at present; but I've found out I may be tasked with upgrading an elderly windows app, currently running on NT4 and untouched in a decade, to work with modern versions of Windows. So far the discussion's only been at the upper management level; but from the dates involved (and knowing that IIRC our .net app from 05 was the customers first) we're assuming it was written in Visual C++/MFC; a platform I dabbled with in school but never used for anything real.
Since MS no longer offers anything prior to VS2002 via MSDN I'm wondering how much pain I'm likely to be in for in just getting it to compile under newer tools.
PS I'm really hoping it's not so old as to be a win16 app. I've never written win16 code; but from what I've read on The Old New Thing, it's enough of a Codethulu-elephant that by the end of porting something from then I'd probably be able to drink Nagy under the table.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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Visual C++/MFC is still a supported and active environment up to and including the latest version of Visual Studio. My guess is that you should be able to upgrade the project in the latest Visual Studio and should be able to build ok. Make sure you install MFC when setting up studio (I noticed in VS2013 that was an option during install). Tools/frameworks come and go but MFC keeps chugging right along
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Dave Calkins wrote: Make sure you install MFC when setting up studio (I noticed in VS2013 that was an option during install)
Looks like I'm good here. I fired up VS2012, picked MFC app from the new project dialog and got a working hello MFC app when I clicked the run button.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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so then you should be able to open the solution file in VS2012 (or since its an older project maybe the workspace file or whatever it was called then) and let it upgrade it. you might then just be able to build and run.
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Probably lots of warnings and some deprecated functions but it is even possible that it will work without touching anything (nah, I was joking in this last part )...
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If it comes to pass you should consider an article for CP.
Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master. ~ George Washington
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Mike Mullikin wrote: If it comes to pass you should consider an article for CP.
I suspect work related NDAs would scuttle any hope of a useful article unless I scoured the internet to find someone elses VC6 legacy project I could use as an example in a writeup.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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Dan Neely wrote: I suspect work related NDAs would scuttle any hope of a useful article... Yeah, I'm in the same boat.
Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master. ~ George Washington
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"I do cool stuff but if I told you about it we'd both have a really bad case of the attack lawyers where the sun don't shine" is rather limiting as small talk at times.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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Mm, I've got some interesting things to say as well and can only do really high level articles (though there might be one of those in the pipeline).
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If it's VC6 then it is unlikely that it is a 16-bit app. VC4 on is 32-bit. As pointed out by others, your biggest problem is likely to be 3rd party libs.
Da Bomb
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if it's all standard MFC with no external 3rd party libs, it should be a fairly straightforward conversion. and if you can stick to Win32, the job will be much simpler.
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Dan Neely wrote: it's enough of a Codethulu-elephant that by the end of porting something from then I'd probably be able to drink Nagy under the table
Ever wondered what project Nagy encountered?
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Now isn't that a scary thought.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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