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Eddy Vluggen wrote: Lots of data can be (re)presented as a list.
I totally agree with you there. My peeve isn't the list-driven interface concept. Although, it doesn't work for everything. But for document management it's not bad.
Eddy Vluggen wrote: Imagine having programmatic access to such a list, complete with metadata and security. Imagine launching a workflow when an item is added to a list (thing sqls' trigger, but more powerfull). Imagine a stable version of MSAccess, webbased. And now imagine being able to use .NET in almost any part of that application.
Imagine a slow and non-performant web app. Imagine poor internal structure. Imagine an even more stable version of MS Access being called SQL Server, Oracle, MySQL, etc. Imagine being able to construct a better architecture for a web app that's extremely scalable. Imagine running sites like Code Project and Facebook on SharePoint. Imagine using HTML5 cleanly without SP crap getting in the way.
Eddy Vluggen wrote: There was (is?) an issue-tracking template that gives a bit of an idea of what you can do, should be nice and recognizable for a dev.
If you use it for what it's intended for, I don't mind it one bit. It's a nice cookie-cutter solution to one problem. It's not the end all be all SharePoint guys try to pretend it is. It's when trying to extend it, then I'd much rather just write a real web app. And most SP guys are simply ignorant of how to really develop, so I understand their opinion. But the more experienced they get I'm sure it'll change.
Jeremy Falcon
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Jeremy Falcon wrote: Although, it doesn't work for everything It's not a silver bullet, so don't use it for "everything". There's a lot of tables that can be condensed to a list.
Jeremy Falcon wrote: Imagine a slow and non-performant web app Simple solution; don't run it on a box with 1 Gb memory.
Jeremy Falcon wrote: Imagine being able to construct a better architecture for a web app that's extremely scalable Take a look at the price of SharePoint.
Now look at your code.
Now look at the price of SharePoint again.
Bastard Programmer from Hell
If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
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Eddy Vluggen wrote: Simple solution; don't run it on a box with 1 Gb memory.
We're developers, we thrive on complex. If I need a toaster, that toaster will be able to travel to the moon and back while making toast.
Eddy Vluggen wrote: Now look at the price of SharePoint again.
I know what you're saying. Where I'm working we're actually implementing SP for the run-of-the-mill collaboration. But, the rest of the "information systems" infrastructure is using a custom solution. Gotta have toast on the moon.
Jeremy Falcon
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Well, I'm glad I'm not the only one. I subscribed to a Windows SharePoint Services 3.0 site last week...all I can tell you is that in SharePoint, everything is a 'list' with different ways to 'view' the lists.
Mostly just wanted it to share a team calendar with my group of mostly MS Outlook users...it mostly works for that, anyway...mostly...
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I've taken a courses on it, and used it a bit, and the reason nobody what's WTF it is, is because it's not really anything. It's what you make of it. As such, the definition I give it is a development platform for storing documents. Much like how Windows Explorer works in Windows or how source control works; however, this development platform, just so happens to use a SQL Server backend with a list-driven web interface and has a lot more beef. So, it's like a file system you can develop with, be it custom modules, workflows, and even support version control.
Jeremy Falcon
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Movie Quote Of The Day
I'd say she's a trained goddamn liar, and everything she's said up until now has been to protect her cover.
Which movie?
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The Iron Lady
Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952)
Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)
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You can't use that again today. Max once a week...
Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant Anonymous ----- The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine Winston Churchill, 1944 ----- I'd just like a chance to prove that money can't make me happy. Me, all the time
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Tell that to Nagy!
Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952)
Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)
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Something to do with Agent Evelyn?
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The Smurfs?
Don't mind those people who say you're not HOT. At least you know you're COOL.
I'm not afraid of falling, I'm afraid of the sudden stop at the end of the fall! - Richard Andrew x64
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Probably during a commercial break.
Jeremy Falcon
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The awesome NSA trainig grounds
VOL 1 :Keep up u'r cover
if(this.signature != "")
{
MessageBox.Show("This is my signature: " + Environment.NewLine + signature);
}
else
{
MessageBox.Show("404-Signature not found");
}
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Booooh! Spoilsport!
Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant Anonymous ----- The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine Winston Churchill, 1944 ----- I'd just like a chance to prove that money can't make me happy. Me, all the time
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Wrong! The movie is something about pepper[ȵ] something
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sorry but you are wrong in this case. i have seen this movie few days ago and that's why i remember. for your ref IMDB
Ravi Khoda
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And here is my proof[ﷻ]
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No wait, I know: It must be The Bill Clinton Story - Uncensored!
How could I have missed it before?
Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant Anonymous ----- The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine Winston Churchill, 1944 ----- I'd just like a chance to prove that money can't make me happy. Me, all the time
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Dog gone it you beat me to it. However, I was going to go for a Bill quote in Monica's Story.
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Amazing, isn't it: A president whos reputation is more associated with one specific indiscretion than with his possible achievements as president (or lack thereof, what do I know?) - plus of course the fact that he lied blatantly to the American people and the world...
Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant Anonymous ----- The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine Winston Churchill, 1944 ----- I'd just like a chance to prove that money can't make me happy. Me, all the time
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Johnny J. wrote: he lied blatantly to the American people and the world..
A president of the United States would never lie.
If you believe that, I have this bridge in Brooklyn I will sell you cheap.
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Of course not, what was I thinking...
Corporal Agarn wrote: If you believe that, I have this bridge in Brooklyn I will sell you cheap.
Really? How much?
Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant Anonymous ----- The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine Winston Churchill, 1944 ----- I'd just like a chance to prove that money can't make me happy. Me, all the time
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But the real fun part is, that it not only enhanced his reputation, but also his popularity! Go figure...
Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant Anonymous ----- The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine Winston Churchill, 1944 ----- I'd just like a chance to prove that money can't make me happy. Me, all the time
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