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Beside the new CDs mentioned below, I also ordered a nice book to learn to speak Czech. Any tips/tricks on that language (or hidden Czechs around)?
I know that @Argonia and @Nagy-Vilmos have a strong connection to Hungary|Bulgaria, but don't know how the languages are connected (e.g. Italian has words in common with french - Sorry, Carlo!) - Would it be easy to learn Czech first, and then apply parts of the newly learnt skills onto Bulgarian|Hungarian?
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Well if it helps, I'm told I speak b*ll*cks most of the time...
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No, that doesn't really help. Besides that, Ballack[^] speaks German 
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OriginalGriff wrote: I speak b*ll*cks most all of the time..
Couldn't resist
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When he said most of the time, I just assumed it was b'llocks.
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A fair assumption, methinks, as he speak... oh! wait! I see what you did there!
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Bulgarian is in the group of Slavic languages as Czech and Hungarian. This means they have similarities with the rest of the Slavic languages, some of them are closer (Bulgarian - Russian) than others (Bulgarian - Croatian) but knowing one of the languages in that group doesn't necessarily means that you will learn easily one or more than the rest.
For example i am Bulgarian but hardly understand Serbian(i don't recognize even one word).
The only advance you can gain is the way of the saying some specific sounds. For example English is more soft language than German and for Slavic group i can say that the sounds used in the words are nearly the same.
Good luck with your language study 
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Argonia wrote: The only advance you can gain is the way of the saying some specific sounds.
Which is half of the rent - I know Swiss who's English has a terrible Swiss accent *shudder*
Thanks for the answer 
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Argonia wrote: Slavic languages as Czech and Hungarian
Not Hungarian! Hungarian is Finno-Ugric[^]...
I'm not questioning your powers of observation; I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is. (V)
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I was checking the spelling for my other post and I came across a BRILLIANT link Te rohadt geci[^].
Seriously guys, these are GREAT! They make MM sound like a nun in comparison. 
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Blocked...
I'm not questioning your powers of observation; I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is. (V)
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Vilmos can't understand :innocentWhistle:
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Funny, but there are some issues with the hungarian character encodings, so unfortunately a lot of them just show up as "�" in my browser... 
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Hungarian is not Slavic! It is the world's best language for swearing but it is not related to any of the near languages.
I mean, any language with "baszd szájba a kurva anyádat" or "kurva anyád vérvörös picsát" is so worth learning. I will the translation, and application, of these to the discretion of the reader; though you may say they are a tad NSFW.
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Sorry i am not so good with languages and I don't care about the language groups, but i want to clarify that every language is good for swearing and the kurva word is present in the bulgarian 
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The proto-bulgars originated close to the Magyars somewhere in the eurasian steppes, but the proto-bulgarian language was Turkic, not Finno-Ugric. Later on when the bulgarian kings moved to the present day Bulgaria they wanted to differentiate themselves from the strong greek influence through Byzantine, because the christianity was brought into Bulgaria through the greek language.
The only available alternative was Old Church Slavonic[^], so that's how slavonic became the official language in Bulgaria and proto-bulgarian became exinct.
Neither language had any resemblance to Magyar or Hungarian at any point
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First proto-bulgars were not speaking anything close to Turkic language or with any relation to it. They were slovac tribes united to protect themself from the common enemies. It is believed they came somewhere from the west and when they reached Dabube they spit in two. One part of the tribes remain here, the climate was good and there were many grasslands for the horses. the proto-bulgars were warriors using mainly horses. They were wearing helmets with horse hair on top. I have seen old bulgarian language and it has nothing similar to turkish or any language from Turkic group.
The bulgarians were baptised by knyaz(something like king, but not exactly ) Boris I in 9th century from Constantinople . He had a choice Rome or Constantinople and it was more of a political decision. Later The first kingdom of Bulgaria was official a kingdom with a king. Because of the baptism the bulgarian kingdom was recognized into a kingdom with a king and not only country with knyaz for a ruler.
The only interaction with turkish and greek languages were during the Ottoman rule continued for 500 years. If the bulgarians really had any connections with them they would be happy for something like that, but instead of that they were slaves and slaughtered like animals.
Batak massacre
Just a small example of the slaughters.
Bulgarians and Turks have nothing in common exept for some shared unpleasant history. Its the same with greeks. We are closer to russians instead with turks.
Point of that whole post is that not all what people write in wikipedia is true.
Oh one more thing, bulgarians find this really offensive saying we have something in common with turks, so please in future check your sources.
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Ah the old Russian brainwashing. Bulgars are slavs therefore rusian. Bull-crap my dear.
From the old communist times.
Here, read something, a list of old bulgar words preserved in the modern Bulgarian language:
http://www.kroraina.com/b_lang/bl_double.html
http://www.kroraina.com/b_lang/index.html[^]
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I can tell the same about the turks all about wanting land and our dark colored "brothers" from India brought to Bulgaria during the communism.
I prefer to believe in the close connection to russians because both nations are naturally with white color of the skin (we don't count the dark colored "brothers" from India)
Do you know how many words sound the same way in bulgarian and russin and how many of the bulgarian sound the same in turkish.
How old i am ? I was a small baby when communism "ended".
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If you choose to remain ignorant, it is your decision really. Otherwise I recommend to peruse some history books on the matter.
There was a Slavic population in old Bulgaria, but they were only one of the three components, the reason why you speak a Slavic language today is because when they had to choose a language for church prayers (and state writings) the options were either greek or old Slavonic.
The bulgars didn't have a translation of the bible or any developed alphabet for that matter and wrote in greek letters. Just like todays polish and czech slavs write in latin alphabet. Old slavonic was also a church approved language. So to unite the three ethnicities, bulgar, thracian and slav, an official language was established and it happened to be slavonic for the aforemetioned reasons.
Our remaining proto-ancestors who didn't move to Europe live today in Tatarstan and Chuvash republic. No historian will tell you otherwise.
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What i learned from history i know that at first the church was using greek for prayers but later they started using bulgarian because the common people didn't understand a word. This happened during king Simeon I rule the younger son of Boris the first. Right after the bulgarians were baptized few years later the bulgarian language was used during the prayers.
My point is they were using already bulgarian before the baptism when greek come into the picture.
Simeon I
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I take it you looked.
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Unfortunate curious mind I have, I shouldn’t have but I did look. 
It was broke, so I fixed it.
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