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how much would it have cost to upgrade to Windows 7, though? what software would need to be replaced or upgraded? what about the time taken to install a new OS on every device affected?
Might well be cost effective - and I don't think school kids are vulnerable to security holes in the OS - let's face it, send them a .exe in the mail, tell them it's "reeely kewl" and they'll run it.
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Software would be OK, driver might, USB mostly, those will be online. Upgrade cost? Whats a win7 license, plus an admin install? Whatever it is that cost has to be bourn at some point. Shelling an extra 200 quid per machine to gain a few months shows serious lack of planning.
Oh, and I asked Chris to revert back to an old account whose email address I use more frequently, that's why my accounts changed.
"The whole idea that carbon dioxide is the main cause of the recent global warming is based on a guess that was proved false by empirical evidence during the 1990s." climate-models-go-cold
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Munchies_Matt wrote: Software would be OK
Not necessarily, there is certainly software out there that has problems on different versions of an OS.
Munchies_Matt wrote: Whats a win7 license,
I don't know what deal the schools get, but maybe 100 quid or a bit less?
Munchies_Matt wrote: plus an admin install
Every pc in every school? Quite high I would think?
Munchies_Matt wrote: Whatever it is that cost has to be bourn at some point.
true - but the longer you can go with existing software, teh more you can spread the cost - and if it aint broke, why fix it?
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The sky is falling, the sky is falling.
fat___boy wrote: The end of commercial support for Windows XP does not mean it will stop working, simply that Microsoft will stop releasing security patches for the operating system
If you had read the article you would not have made that statement.
The article states "The government has signed a deal with Microsoft to provide Windows XP support and security updates across the whole UK public sector for 12 months after commercial support for the operating system ends on 8 April 2014.".
Considering that they will receive security updates this may be a cost effective way of dealing with the problem.
fat___boy wrote: How will security holes be discovered if MSFT halt support?
Microsoft halted commercial support for XP but continues to provide security updates to the UK public sector under this contract.
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Please don't use facts, it will only confuse OP.
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Nagy Vilmos wrote: Please don't use facts, it will only confuse OP.
He obviously didn't read the article linked to in his post.
It was in the second sentence that it was stated that Microsoft would support and provide security updates for a year to the UK public sector under this contract after dropping support to the general public on 8 April.
Since he is new to the site, under a week, I wanted to point out to him that he should read and comprehend before posting observations.
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The Op is far from new, he has been on the site for many years but just gets banned for trolling every now and then. This is just the latest resurrection.
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Probably by back testing Vista/w7/w8 exploits against XP internally...
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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Look, the live stream spammers are back!
Oh wait...
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A giant basket that uses condensation to gather drinking water[^]
This is a really cool idea that should be crowdfunded!
If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein
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Drinking water accumulation in the desert has always used cisterns. Entire palaces were built basically on top of huge underground networks of them. A very old idea, indeed.
What cisterns (and these things) are not good for: nomadic existence. Even though these are more portable then a rock cistern, once filled with water they'll be going no place.
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Nomads usually traveled between known water sources (oasis, ...), but now, water becomes scarce, local aquifers are overused and the water sources are not reliable enough to sustain the nomads.
Having Wind traps like that would help both the nomads and the sedentary people.
I'd rather be phishing!
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It collects only 25 gallons of water per day, which can be used up pretty quickly in a day by a small group of people, family. Further, even though the structure only weighs 88 pounds, it's very tall and not really meant to be portable. In any case, I can see these being setup in groups and being used by both stationary and nomadic people.
If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein
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I've no complaint about water being stored - every sip is valuable.
Here's a worry that's occurred to me:
These get set up, in groups, or even farms (look at me, creating jargon, already!). Control of them can (probably will) become the objects of violent strife.
Not that it'd be any different for any other source of water. I wonder if enough of these could be made and kept in place to prevent the violence?
Just musings.
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein | "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert | "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010 |
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The potential for control & violence is always something to be concerned about, but that doesn't seem to be the case around the existing "watering holes", AFAIK.
If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein
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Wonder how sturdy these things are... if there's high-winds, will these stay standing? ...If you continually have to rebuild something that gets you little water, wonder if people would actually use it.
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I'm going to the spartan race in Indiana on April 26th. Anyone else from here going?
Elephant elephant elephant, sunshine sunshine sunshine
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since the Spartans traditionally exercised in the nude, I'm staying home. Not interested in seeing your junk, sorry.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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At the Edge of NGC 2174 [^]
Sometimes, words are just not required.
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair.
Those who seek perfection will only find imperfection
nils illegitimus carborundum
me, me, me
me, in pictures
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Freakishy cool!
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Wow!
I'm not questioning your powers of observation; I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is. (V)
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Why does it look like there is gravity source at the bottom of the image?
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Jeez, it's because it's been faked on Fox's back-lot; just like the Apollo missions.
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