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Interesting article.[^]
The following line, however, confused me.
"Text-based Web browsers such as Elinks or Lynx remain useful even today in some circumstances, such as operating a Linux server without a graphical user interface."
To read a command-line, you still need a GUI, whether you do it locally or remotely. How you choose to view it is up to you. Unless of course you're outputting the server information directly to a printer to read. Then you just need paper; lots and lots of paper.
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Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote: To read a command-line, you still need a GUI, whether you do it locally or remotely.
No you don't, looked after a few Linux servers over the years that ran directly on the hardware and had no GUI installed. Keyboard and moniter only needed to access it.
You could remote and use PuTTY or the like, but it wasn't required.
Michael Martin
Australia
"I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible."
- Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
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I'm assuming you're talking about sending or receiving commands to or from a Linux server? But to read anything from a server, a GUI has to exist somewhere in order for a browser (command-line or GUI-based) to work. How else would you read something without a GUI?
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SSH from another server?
Keep Clam And Proofread
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√(-1) 23 ∑ π...
And it was delicious.
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Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote: How else would you read something without a GUI?
You read it from the command line?
I think I might be missing something here.
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stdout.
You're obviously far too young -- you want to stop that.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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There are lots of embedded machines out there that use Telnet over Ethernet, or even RS-232 for command-line use.
Software Zen: delete this;
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BTW, I took read to mean literally, as in using one's eyes for reading. Otherwise, server to client communication isn't actually reading if there's no humans involved and I'm assuming the text-based browser is for humans who would need a monitor to read the text (even remotely).
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What you're missing is that olde skool command line based systems such as Unix & DOS are not designated as having a GUI[^]. Non-graphical is CLI[^].
speramus in juniperus
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Yeah, I realized that in my response to someone else. I was too busy seraching for an Asterix page while reading CP.
Should really focus on one thing at a time.
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[taps temple with forefinger]
These system engineers are all crazy.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Dude. Read = text, not graphics. I'm guessing you've never used or seen lynx. It's a text-based browser, the TEXT gets output to the console. No mouse, no clicking, no images, no GUI.
Behold: http://bit.ly/1dZiqXE[^]
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Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote: To read a command-line, you still need a GUI, whether you do it locally or remotely. How you choose to view it is up to you. Unless of course you're outputting the server information directly to a printer to read. Then you just need paper; lots and lots of paper.
Well what say about shelling amidst crisis in a dracut emergency mode shell? These will only save the day (and have, well that day I was fortunate enough to remember the appropriate serial driver module name for my USB stick, the usb_modeswitch command (I googled this in my phone though) and the faithful pppd!)
Assuming you know what a kernel panic feels
Beauty cannot be defined by abscissas and ordinates; neither are circles and ellipses created by their geometrical formulas.
Carl von Clausewitz
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Ubuntu server doesn't even come with a GUI, just the terminal interface (at least out the box), I'm sure Lynx would work on that.
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I was unaware of it really. Whenever I got a ubuntu to do stuff (that was once in a blue moon perhaps), I had a SSH with X.
Beauty cannot be defined by abscissas and ordinates; neither are circles and ellipses created by their geometrical formulas.
Carl von Clausewitz
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The vanilla server version is like this, for most server applications you probably don't want/need the overhead of an GUI. Also this is only true if you need to know what you are doing in linux, which I don't. So the first thing I did was to Google the instructions to install the desktop environment...
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Keith Barrow wrote: you probably don't want/need the overhead of an GUI
One of the things I miss about Windows 95 is the ability to boot to DOS (even though I preferred working in Windows). Never quite got the hang of Linux since every company I've worked for avoided it like the plague.
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Whenever I've used *NIX systems I've really like them, at one point (during my dissertation where the whole thing was done on the command prompt on terminal tools) I might even have raised above the level of newbie to errmm, just above newbie.At that time I could get by on the command prompt. That said I'm a .net dev by trade = microsoft stack at home, except for a couple of "play" VMs.
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You can still do this with XP and Windows 7 if you bring up the boot menu options.
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
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The XP one was Safe Mode with Command Prompt options. Not quite the same. Now I'm on Windows 8 and haven't tried it yet.
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Yea, not quite the same. You could always type "explorer" and blow the ruse.
And now in Windows 7 you can't even make a command prompt full-screen.
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KDE? or Unity?
I'm a great Unity hater. Yet another addition to my public hate-list.
Beauty cannot be defined by abscissas and ordinates; neither are circles and ellipses created by their geometrical formulas.
Carl von Clausewitz
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Now, Amitosh. You know what the doctor said about starting fights. And you only out on parole for a week.
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Unity, KDE is for splitters.
Aaaaaaaaannnnnnnnnndd that is the most of the problem with Linux in two posts.
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Keith Barrow wrote: Ubuntu server doesn't even come with a GUI, just the terminal interface (at least out the box), I'm sure Lynx would work on that.
My CentOS 6.x server was installed after deselecting all GUI components and has happily run for the past 2+ years without one installed.
I do SSH to it from PuTTY as it is wedged over the other side of the bed where keyboard, mouse and monitor cannot get to.
Michael Martin
Australia
"I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible."
- Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
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