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That is the absolute truth. Considering how much code costs to develop, you would think more managers would force code documentation standards of some kind. I have not found that to be the case. I had one job where they actually asked that all comments be removed, thinking that this would 'speed' up building the system. Of course, after doing all this work to remove all the comments we discovered that the compiler is very efficient at ignoring them. Who would have thought? Wow?
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I'm going to predict that there is documentation. Most large organizations, and particularly financial ones do create documentation. It's not always great - but it usually exists.
Then the documentation is locked away "need-to-know" for Security reasons, and over time the people who knew, or had access eventually moved on to other things. The documentation is now locked up in a documentation island, imprisoned.
The issue in larger organizations is not that the documentation doesn't exist, it's that at the end of the project it was considered done - and never touched or updated again - and slowly lost as it sunk below the sands. Sometimes a bit of Archeology within the IT organization can dig things up. Try contacting old PM's, the helpdesk, the Architecture team. Usually someone can dig up something.
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He asks the assistant "Do you have 'European Vespidae Acoustics Volume 2'? I believe it was released this week."
"Certainly," replies the assistant. "Would you like to listen before you buy it?"
"That would be wonderful," says the expert, and puts on a pair of headphones.
He listens for a few moments and says to the assistant, "I'm terribly sorry, but I am the world's leading expert on European wasps and this is not accurate at all. I don't recognize any of those sounds. Are you sure this is the correct recording?"
The assistant checks the turntable, and replies that it is indeed European Vespidae Acoustics Volume 2. The assistant apologizes and lifts the needle onto the next track.
Again the expert listens for a few moments and then says to the assistant, "No, this just can't be right! I've been an expert in this field for 43 years and I still don't recognize any of these sounds."
The assistant apologizes again and lifts the needle to the next track.
The expert throws off the headphones as soon as it starts playing and is fuming with rage.
"This is outrageous false advertising! I am the world's leading expert on European wasps and no European wasp has ever made a sound like the ones on this record!"
The manager of the shop overhears the commotion and walks over.
"What seems to be the problem, sir?"
"This is an outrage! I am the world's leading expert on European wasps. Nobody knows more about them than I do. There is no way in hell that the sounds on that record were made by European wasps!"
The manager glances down and notices the problem instantly.
"I'm terribly sorry, sir. It appears we've been playing you the bee side."
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*groan*
The most expensive tool is a cheap tool. Gareth Branwyn
JaxCoder.com
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Mike Hankey wrote: *groan*
Seconded! I wonder how many youngins know what the B-side even is?
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And even of those that older records ran at 78rpm?
The most expensive tool is a cheap tool. Gareth Branwyn
JaxCoder.com
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Bring back wax cylinders, that's what I say!
When I was at Uni, a mate bought his first car - gawd knows how old it was, but it had a starting handle ... and a radio with actual valves in it, so it took about two minutes to warm up before you could hear anything.
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I think you mean tubes (glass vacuum tubes). They are kind of like a valve.
I think they would blow out like incandescent light bulbs. I remember going to a store with my father to buy a replacement tube for the radio or amp one time.
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They were called "valves" in Right Pond.
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You could have been tipped off by "lifts the needle onto the next track". Youngsters have no idea what that means, either.
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I remember a elderly faculty member having issues with reading a 5 1/4 inch floppy disk. He tried several times and it wouldn't read. He then called my classmate, who found out that all the while he was inserting it upside down. The student taught the teacher how to insert a floppy disk correctly into its drive.
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Those people who had a Commodore 64 with the 1541 disk drive would know that you could flip the disk over and write to the other side as well. Of course you had to clip a second notch on the side of the disk to allow writing.
Kelly Herald
Software Developer
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Hold still Griff. We're going to have to hurt you now.
Software Zen: delete this;
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My boss gives me "demerits" for bad puns. A shortened version of this one got me 33 1/3 demerits.
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Could have been worse: it might have been a single instead of an LP. Or even worse, a 78!
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I'm starting a new job on Monday, and I posed some questions regarding the unit testing stuff they do, and asked this question:
"Which testing framework are we using - mstest, nunit, xunit?"
Response (from one of the testers) - "I'm not sure".
How can that possibly be the case? Should I be worried?
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I would say that means something like: We don't do unit tests.
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They do automated UI testing with Selenium, but they still have to use a testing framework to "make it go".
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010 ----- You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010 ----- When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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Testing can be done in several ways.
I guess unit testing is more a developer / dev-ops thing.
modified 11-Nov-22 12:55pm.
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Regardless of whether or not unit testing is done, you still need some sort of testing framework (for selenium), right?
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010 ----- You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010 ----- When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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I played around with selenium with mstest. Haven't tried it with nunit yet.
FWIW, that question was 9 years old... Would it. and the answers it garnered, still be relevant?
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010 ----- You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010 ----- When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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Can't tell, as I don't have any experience with Selenium, but I get the impression that unit testing is not needed per se ...
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