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I would advise against that.
1. It doesn't answer their question.
2. It doesn't help anyone else (assuming the question is phrased well enough that someone else might be searching for it.
3. I'm not sure they will learn.
4. If I find a question that this response that requires this, I will more than likely delete it.
Thanks,
Sean Ewington
CodeProject
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Comprehension,
Not everyone understands the documents they are reading. That's what it boils down to. Sometimes you just need someone to explain it in laymen terms.
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A lot of times, I answer the question and then tell them they could have found the same answer with a simple google search.
Personally, I would much rather try to find the answer to a question with a google search than wait for someone on CP to answer a question I post. It's faster, and I get a myriad of solutions to my problem.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010 ----- You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010 ----- When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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Not all of them. Sometimes, verbatim answers to stupid questions yield some fantastic entertainment.
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People seem to think I know everything. To be honest, I have a terrible memory.
So, when someone phones me, wanting to know something, the conversation goes something like this:
caller: ring ring
me: hello?
caller: Hi, do you know [who|what|why|when|where] <something> is?
me: (click home on browser) Hi it's John isn't it?
caller: Yes, it's john, from the tech department.
me: (typing "[who|what|when|where] <something>" into google) What is connection with?
caller: Blah, blah and blah.
me: (looking for the most likely answers that match his babble) Well, <something> is [they|that|then|there].
caller: wow, thank you. How do you know so much?
me: (bookmarking that page, because the idiot will phone for more details later) I just know stuff.
Nothing succeeds like a budgie without teeth.
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They are NOT stupid! Quite the opposite! they are 'smart' or, actually 'street smart'. And they are LAAAAAZY! They have been conditioned to behave like this by our new society. When the 'classical' school is reduced to Google, YouTube, blogs and forums - all easy ways to solve your problems without work or even giving it much thought (they are not even able to articulate the question they want to ask/search for), then why wouldn't they take advantage of them?! Books, manuals, datasheets, etc. all hundreds of pages long must be avoided like the pest! I see them every days on technical forums, mumbling some 'question', mostly asking for 'codes' and the forum 'experts' jumping to serve them like bitches in heat! They go mindlessly thru schools and universities and come out as the new specialists with impressive titles and diplomas. They are the future. Fortunately they are not all like that - just like >95%.
God help us...
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in short: no
context matters (to me at least)
like any skill, something which might seem easy to yourself, might not be so for others.
and "just google it" is not so. Add on taking code X and apply to code Y is another head ach.
- what wanting answer to
- how to phase question
- which resources results are useful and which not (my Ad blindess and dark pattern design of how google places ad is tripping me up a bit more often in last year 😒)
- then reading answer, understanding and transforming to your needs.
"how to calculate room size" is missing things like, floor area, volume,
my manic self would question do inner walls count toward a houses area or not.
Often asking back questions helps prompt them in the direction to solving what they need.
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Thanks for cruising the CP/QA/Forums neighborhood, and dumping your generalizations. and negativity,
Given the stupidity you see, it is, of course, a wise choice for you to not contribute anything.
In ten years on CodeProject, you have a track record that speaks for itself:
Articles 0
Tech Blogs 0
Messages 666 (Master)
Q&A Questions 1
Q&A Answers 3
Tips/Tricks 2
Reference 0
Projects 0
Comments 5
«The mind is not a vessel to be filled but a fire to be kindled» Plutarch
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My experience with asking for help with programming goes back to my first computer Apple // 40 columns
So this was before you could use the internet to ask questions.
My only educational experience with programming was an elective in pharmacy school called basic programming.
This was on DEC Writer NO Screen.
While living in Dayton, Ohio I was lucky we had a computer club Apple Dayton at Wright Patterson Air Force Base.
Once a month members would publish a floppy disk with tip & tricks and a complete program now and then.
At the monthly meeting you could interact with like minded people face to face.
Also at this time computer magazines had some quality code published as an article.
Fast forward to the invention of interacting on the internet where in place of face to face dialog the responder to a question can go out of their way to chastise the person with less knowledge.
What has been expressed by Bill Woodruff and others is that Code Project is a Club.
If you do not want to HELP don't engage with the question. OR point the person to a suitable Article.
For me as a Novice programmer I am always thankful when I get an answer on Code Project.
When I first joined it was to get an answer to a question.
I realized after a while that the people here were highly educated in not only programming but in many other disciplines.
The Lounge has been a wonderful place for polite interaction kind of like Apple Dayton Club.
My pie in the sky thought it would be nice to see a bi-monthly article on how to do various code procedures
I would love to contribute with an article from a Novice point of view about the complete construction of a project but I need a little help understanding how to use the interface on Code Project.
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Totally agree with your second comment. I have benefited from amazingly patient replies to questions I later realise were maybe a bit stupid. Thank you all.
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Well I can't speak for CP, but....
Stack Overflow - You'll make the mods/admins mad
Quora - You'll get a strike on your account
Facebook - You'll get a 24 hour posting ban
In all 3 cases, try to use lmgtfy, and the ban you receive will be cited as "Not being courteous or kind to others, and using language intended to inflict harm."
I keep racking up bans, then I hit the limit and have to be very careful for 3/6 months or whatever, otherwise my account will get closed down, it is crazy how easily those 3 are triggered these days.
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On my GFX project at github I got my first issue request that wasn't a bug - from someone that wants to use my library commercially! They've evaluated the other graphics libraries, and are leaning toward my offering.
That's super cool. It's the first serious use of my library by someone aside from me that I'm aware of.
Real programmers use butterflies
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the butterflies are flapping really hard today.
Also, congrats
To err is human to really elephant it up you need a computer
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Congrats, always nice to see someone using your work for good and not evil.
The less you need, the more you have.
Even a blind squirrel gets a nut...occasionally.
JaxCoder.com
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Congrats - butterflies are the theme for the CCC this week ( as long as you are a monarch )
"Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well-preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming “Wow! What a Ride!" - Hunter S Thompson - RIP
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That is so cool!
Make sure you get a percentage of the cut and don't forget about us when you're a billionaire
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I released it MIT. If they want support I'll charge them.
Real programmers use butterflies
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I remember you agonizing over licenses a while back. I am glad you found the right one.
Don’t forget to display your HoneyWitch logo as part of the driver initialization with your website of course! Kind of like all of the production companies do for movies.😊
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My favorite kind of license
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Provide support for crawler (11)
"Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well-preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming “Wow! What a Ride!" - Hunter S Thompson - RIP
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"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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CATER-PILLAR
Software rusts. Simon Stephenson, ca 1994. So does this signature. me, 2012
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Quote: Ah, breaker one-nine, this here's the Rubber Duck
You gotta copy on me, Pig Pen, c'mon?
Ah, yeah, 10-4, Pig Pen, fer shure, fer shure
By golly, it's clean clear to Flag Town, c'mon
Yeah, that's a big 10-4 there, Pig Pen
Yeah, we definitely got the front door, good buddy
Mercy sakes alive, looks like we got us a theme week!
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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YAUT
"Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well-preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming “Wow! What a Ride!" - Hunter S Thompson - RIP
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La oruga muy hambrienta
The very hungry caterpillar
That book always made me hungry!
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