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Well, it depends upon how crumby they are, doesn't it ?
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"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein | "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010 |
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Would people who refuse them be jammy dodgers?
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PIEBALDconsult wrote: jammy dodgers
Tarts?
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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Hey, now, that's my sister you're talking about.
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Because water and electricity don't go well together?
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Wrong etymology. They were named after the dodgy advertisers who made them popular, and were originally called crookies.
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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Ha Ha Ho Ho. That cracker's me up!
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That really takes the biscuit!
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
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I also wondered if they are frequently victims of phish n' chips scams?
“Give a man a program, frustrate him for a day. Teach a man to program, frustrate him for a lifetime.”
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:groan:
Software Zen: delete this;
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Doctor quickly meditates to become tamed (12)
Sorry about the delay, I had to wait until I sent myself a reminder ...
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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Domesticated ?
"I didn't mention the bats - he'd see them soon enough" - Hunter S Thompson - RIP
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You are up tomorrow!
Care to explain?
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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doctor quickly doc
meditates
to become (anagram)
tamed (definition)
domesticated
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Cheers. I never have liked documenting
"I didn't mention the bats - he'd see them soon enough" - Hunter S Thompson - RIP
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It's easy to reverse engineer it after it's been solved!
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Indeed but I say again...
"I didn't mention the bats - he'd see them soon enough" - Hunter S Thompson - RIP
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Where's the CCC?
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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Where's the CCC ?
"I didn't mention the bats - he'd see them soon enough" - Hunter S Thompson - RIP
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There are languages I refuse to use for fear of picking up bad habits.
Perl is one. Python* is another. And then there's BASIC
I'd add assembly to the list except there are unfortunately, rare instances where I need it.
*Python isn't as bad an offender as the others, but its array handling and use of significant whitespace are deal breakers for me.
I don't like to holy roll. Sure I have my favorite languages (C++, C#) and languages I hate but grudgingly accept (like Javascript), and ones that just aren't my cup of tea but I'll use them if I must (Java). Still, I try to be fair, and I believe that most languages have their niche. Even Perl, if I'm being generous, but that doesn't mean I'll use it and it doesn't mean I don't think there should be a better alternative.
The ones I listed up top though - Nope. Just no. I will not use them, except perhaps to port something away from them.
I have to have some sort of standards.
Sometimes I wonder if I'm being overly picky though.
Real programmers use butterflies
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For its time (when procedural languages ruled the world), BASIC was a good beginner's language. Its modern variants (VB) have strayed so far from the original concept that the only things remaining are the name and some vestiges of the syntax.
As far as I'm concerned, Python's significant whitespace is a deal breaker. The fixed-format lines in classical FORTRAN were bad enough, but at least they had some rationale behind them (punched card widths, etc.). I see no reason to repeat that in a modern language.
I disagree about assembly language. As you mentioned, it is sometimes necessary, both for extremely low-level kernel stuff and for extremely high-performance code. It's also fun!
JavaScript and other weakly-typed scripting languages are tools of the Devil. I shudder to think how much of our infrastructure is built over code that will run even with typos (though it won't do what you expect).
Personally, I do most of my coding in C, C++, C#, and Java.
As long as one can remain gainfully employed using the tools that one prefers using - why worry? The time to worry is when one sees these tools going out of fashion, and one is required to interface to the new-fangled stuff. However, given that new programs are still being written in FORTRAN and COBOL, I don't see C, C++, C#, or Java being abandoned any time soon.
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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I don't disagree that assembly is fun. It just isn't conducive to me keeping up good coding habits. I'm not sure how much we actually disagree with there.
And I'm not so worried, except for the fact that I don't want to get too stuck by being stubborn.
We seem to agree for the most part, at least conceptually, although we have slightly different views on some languages. I don't think VB.NET is much better than BASIC. It might be worse, as it's no longer beginners, but it still encourages crappy coding.
I should add with regard to assembly: I've found it's more fun (in terms of the challenge) to get C++ to generate the assembly I want (or better)
Real programmers use butterflies
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honey the codewitch wrote: I don't disagree that assembly is fun. It just isn't conducive to me keeping up good coding habits. I'm not sure how much we actually disagree with there. On the contrary. It's always think or sink and that forms the best habits of all. No time for any guru's version of how things should be or not. Be your own guru.
I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats.
His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.
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That's fine when I'm writing source code for me. But when I'm working on a team there are certain more or less universal practices that I like to keep in the habit of. Assembly isn't really about that, and that's fine. It's just something I'm not going to use when I can avoid it. For the above, and for many other reasons.
Besides, like I said earlier, I find it more gratifying to picture the ASM i want, and then set about cajoling the C++ compiler into generating my target instructions the way I like (or as is often the case, better than I would have imagined)
Real programmers use butterflies
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honey the codewitch wrote: I don't think VB.NET is much better than BASIC. It might be worse, as it's no longer beginners, but it still encourages crappy coding.
While VB.Net has some serious syntactic shortcomings when it comes to Lambda functions and LinQ, apply the two statements below eliminates all the crappy coding relating to variable and type declarations.
Option Strict On
Option Explicit On
I find the C# "var" variable declaration to be an abomination as it allows the programmer to not understand data types they're using. I also find the use of { and } for code blocking to be a threat to clean coding. In fact, the 2003 power outage that impacted New York, New Jersey, Maryland, Connecticut, Massachusetts, Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Ontario was the direct result of an erroneously placed }. This type of code bug is much harder to miss in VB because the language uses keywords to start and end code blocks.
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