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But ... but ... that means effort.
But it's no effort for you, so why not just do it for me and then no-one has to try hard?
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
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I need code for am app where you cut, paste and get working a piece of code I chose on my machine.
The less you need, the more you have.
Why is there a "Highway to Hell" and only a "Stairway to Heaven"? A prediction of the expected traffic load?
JaxCoder.com
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Henco Du Plessis wrote: ...but the word can only be that of the words already typed... Do you mean letters?
"One man's wage rise is another man's price increase." - Harold Wilson
"Fireproof doesn't mean the fire will never come. It means when the fire comes that you will be able to withstand it." - Michael Simmons
"You can easily judge the character of a man by how he treats those who can do nothing for him." - James D. Miles
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Hasbro is in charge of the Clue.
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Clue? Do tell ...
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What an odd business requirement.
It almost sounds like a homework assignment.
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Shirley not!?
No self respecting student would try to cheat, would they?
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How do you figure this is a "self-respecting student"?
And don't call me Shirley.
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Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue ...
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Why would you encourage this guy? He should find it himself, rather than coming to the lounge with it.
Sometimes, I don't know. I just don't.
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We've just transitioned to Open source, git, agile, AWS, etc. all at once with no preparation so I have a problem. I need to know what is going on in branches, both remote and local. We don't seem to be doing releases so that creates a log jam or maybe a back log. I see the writing on the wall. I want something that will do color bars that can be labeled by branch, person, feature, etc. A Gantt Chart might do it but I figure something is out there already. This is not a web site. A false move could wipe out the entire system as it is a 150 plus C# file lambda . Testing is, well, it runs or it doesn't. Anything else will come as a surprise. Oh... Agile has no provision for git so we're on our own.
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Looks awesome but is just one more advanced tool to learn. Maybe later. Not sure I could get permissions to connect it to the corporate git repository. Like I said, I just need something like a Gantt chart for now until we get our brains together a little bit.
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Mike's suggestion is a good one. If you can't get your brains together a little bit then I suggest you try again. Do some Googling, YouTubing and reading until you get a better idea of what you are doing. if you don't want to risk losing all this source code then:
1. Make sure you have a backup.
2. Figure out how to use the tool Mike suggested.
...or take up another profession - if you can't cope with GIT you are in the wrong job.
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
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I'm looking for suggestions of what to Google, YouTube and reading.
I'm not worrying about losing source code. I'm worried about keeping it organized. git is not the problem. I have two junior developers: one python, one .Net Foundation making the jump to working as a .Net Core team in AWS with wicked YAML and corporate cloud requirements. Try it some time. There is a huge learning curve that upper folks deny exists. The iteration manager folks don't want any time spent trying to track branches and changes because it's not development of the project. The iteration managers aren't allowing releases... because "they haven't had their training meeting about releases yet". We already have a backlog. There will be too many branches to keep track of without something. ... What makes you think that I can get permissions to use that tool with our corporate repository? What we are doing is ridiculous. One week we were doing what we had done for years, on prem with SQL Server, iSeries, TFS, C++ and .Net Framework. The next week we were plan, build, run; agile; open source; and the contractor is out of the picture leaving me with a .Net Core; AWS Lambda monstrosity. The team was scattered with me remaining and two new hires. Have you ever even heard of an AWS lambda that included 150+ C# source files? I'm in the wrong job, but not because of git. It's lambda that is going to be my demise. I need fast simple solutions to organize this. I'll probably be able to make the code to do what I want. It's the rest I worry about.
modified 25-Jun-21 15:52pm.
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Oh thank the great Ghu I retired from this sort of crap. You have my sympathies and thankfully I no longer have to think through these disasters.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity -
RAH
I'm old. I know stuff - JSOP
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Michael Breeden wrote: I need fast simple solutions I've got a quick solution for you: It Jobs | Monster.com[^]
I wouldn't want to work for a company that doesn't value my skills or contributions because managers think they know better.
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I've thought about that... I have, but right now is not the time and I have a psychological quirk that I'm almost unable to quit a problem. It can be a strength or a weakness. My personal project is now 4 decades in. Ya have to have a need... or an obsession.
The funny thing is that I just realized that my "managers", iteration managers, etc. are in a worse position than me. I worked for manager X who was a DBA kinda guy that spent 20 years building the typical vast Db network, full of business logic, that is typical of big corporations. He knew where everything was and how it worked. He was master of his domain and able to lead lieutenants like me that would go out and conquer whatever he said needed conquering. I could win my battles because he knew the scope of the war. Brilliant guy, great leader. Not perfect but as good as you could hope for.
Three years ago, the changes started with a new CTO that said we needed to up our game and go to the cloud. I've been working for a couple of years to move to do that. I'm an AWS certified Architect, I moved to .Net Core and took a bunch of other classes like the CTO said to. I'm pretty prepared for this... (just not to this insane lambda and not having the team scattered). They haven't prepared. Manager X who is now on the Plan Team, but necessarily works with our build team, needed me to archive 28 TB to S3. He made two large mistakes before doing what I told him was needed in the first place. It wasted over a week of my time, but really it is because he doesn't know cloud. They sell the cloud as being just like your on-prem data center, but it is nothing like it (for us especially because of the lambda). All the leads are now in a worse place than me. I tried to prepare. They didn't... which I understand. Inertia is that way. It is a "re-invention". I've done enough of them to know, but they hadn't. They have been told that Agile and JIRA will solve all their problems so they are working on that, but they are no longer masters of the IT technology as they were. While a pain for me, I suspect it is worse for them. I wonder how much they realize how much they depend on me.
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I dislike Git for its gratuitous complexity and penchant for storing many and large files in your work area.
� Forogar � wrote: if you can't cope with GIT you are in the wrong job.
I'm retired.
Oh yeah and I mostly use CVS and SVN.
If pigs could fly, just imagine how good their wings would taste!
- Harvey
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Well, Git is unusable, so enjoy I guess...
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git is fine but I know I'm going to have a godawful number of branches and features right away in code that is very easy to break and very difficult to tell if it is broken. It was always accepted that regression testing was never really possible due to thousands of different possible inputs. You just had to isolate different business unit code make sure you never broke anything. That was OK when I was the developer and could manage every detail using TFS. Git is going to have far more branches and I am sure that things are going to get broken. I just need a basic organization tool so I know what branches there are, the features in them and the stage of the features. When we can do releases, the problem will be simplified but that ain't yet. I don't know when that will be. Also, one developer is sort of on his own with a feature and he didn't even know to make his own branch. I have no idea what he is going to do toamke his stuff work and I don't think he cares what he breaks of existing code.
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Your easiest option would be to learn something like Mike Hanley suggested. Git is one of those tools where the less you understand the more complicated things become. That being said, I use git log for visualization of branches. A good baseline version is:
git log --oneline --all --graph --decorate
If you've got a hairball of a git repo you'll quickly see why a separate tool might be a better solution. git log has a TON of filtering options though which can help.
References:
git-log | Git
Advanced Git Log | Atlassian
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That's pretty cool. I didn't know about that. Thanks.
The thing is though that I need to know what others are doing in branches they have made on their local machines that aren't on the repository. Not so much details, but so that we all know who is doing something so we will be careful to work together.
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Quote: The thing is though that I need to know what others are doing in branches they have made on their local machines that aren't on the repository. You cannot. When someone clones a repository (presumably the main repository), the clone is independent of the original. You get to see what they've done only when they make a pull request or, God forbid, when they push their changes to the main repository. Given that your team is just starting with git I'd suggest to have only one person with write access to the main repository. In this case the other members will be forced to do pull requests and only one person will be able to accept those requests. At least you will know who should be hanged if things go south
Regarding the other branches developers make on their own machines, normally you shouldn't care. Each one can have its own way of managing the development process on their machines, with more branches or less branches depending on their whims. The only thing that matters is what they bring back to the main repository through those pull requests.
Mircea
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