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Ican't help but wonder how someone can come to think that there are people who don't recognize a milk bar when they see one and have absolutely no idea what to do with it. 
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a f***ing golf cart.
"I don't know, extraterrestrial?"
"You mean like from space?"
"No, from Canada."
If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.
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I think that was George Michael...
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Jeremy Falcon wrote: I can't help but wonder about the first guy to see a cow and think, ya know, I'm gonna suck on that and drink whatever comes out of it.
... or the first guy that decided to eat the cheese that came from it when it went bad.
I'm retired. There's a nap for that...
- Harvey
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Or how about the guy that noticed civet cats were eating coffee beans and then crapping out the undigested beans. What kind of person is it that witnesses this act, and then says, "Hey! I bet that would make GREAT coffee!"
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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He tried smoking it first.
Peter Wasser
"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts." - Bertrand Russell
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Or the guy who saw tobacco and thought "Let's harvest the leaves, dry them, shred them, then devise a method to burn them with the intent of breathing it into our lungs - that would be awesome!"
There are two types of people in this world: those that pronounce GIF with a soft G, and those who do not deserve to speak words, ever.
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He was probably a dev. 
Jeremy Falcon
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True dat
There are two types of people in this world: those that pronounce GIF with a soft G, and those who do not deserve to speak words, ever.
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Eggs.. The next thing which falls out of that chickens bum, im going to eat!
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Nebulae in Aurigae [^]
I find the sheer, raw, magnificent beauty of the universe to be utterly captivating. Ok, it's been filtered, etc, but who cares?
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Nice picture, and anytime you have the opportunity to use the word anticenter you should take it. 
"the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment
"Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst
"I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle
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Pink Floyd album cover potential...
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"Obscured by Dust Clouds"?
"the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment
"Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst
"I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle
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I am just wondering something. In the threads below I am reading about people having disasterous times upgrading their machines to Win 10, and then someone replies that they had no problems at all. What is the relative age of the hardware of those with problems compared to those with no problems at all? I am betting the newer the hardware, the less problems being had.
My machine is 5 years old and running Win 7. Should I attempt to upgrade? I am thinking not.
Within you lies the power for good - Use it!
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I obtained my machine two years back and you can probably add a year or two to that in terms of when it came into production and I am one of the zero problems bods. So, yeah, age could have something to do with it. It also seems that desktops do better than laptops.
Of course, if what you're really asking is "Can I justify to my spouse/special friend/business partner/mother/bank manager getting a new computer purely for the joy of using W10?" then who am I to say no?
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I have found that the "safe boot" mode that is on newer laptops is pretty good at preventing changes in the operating system. Upgrading to Win7 from Win8 was terrible, and going to Win10 from Win7 was almost impossible for me.
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Do a full backup first (AOMEI is good, and free)
Upgrade.
Download ISO version.
Reformat HDD and install from ISO.
Reinstall software.
Reload data from backup (AOMEI allows you to load a backup as a virtual drive, so you can do an image restore to get back to your Win 7 setup, or access just the files you want from the backup set)
Don't try to miss any stages... 
You will likely get some grief - the 7 -> 10 upgrade can be awkward - but provided you do a proper install after the upgrade you should be able to minimize them.
Is it good? Well...a bit. It's uglier than Win 7, any old hardware may not have drivers and it's badly integrated. But it is the way forward unfortunately, so at some point you will have to move.
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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OriginalGriff wrote: old hardware may not have drivers
BOOM! The single biggest reason NOT to upgrade to a newer version of Windows. If you don't want to entertain the possibility of having to buy any new hardware, do NOT upgrade to Win10. Remember the sh|tstorm that happened with Vista? All of a sudden, none of your otherwise perfectly serviceable hardware was compatible.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: Remember the sh|tstorm that happened with Vista? All of a sudden, none of your otherwise perfectly serviceable hardware was compatible.
Vista introduced a new driver model, which is still in use today.
I've never run Vista myself, but all the hardware I've used with 7 and above still run fine with 10. Even if manufacturers have no drivers specifically for Windows 10, the ones for 7 and above still work.
YMMV with laptops though. The OEMs seem to take the extra step to break everything at every Windows version to make sure you just replace your hardware.
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Why doesn't the "if it aint broke, don't fix it" attitude apply to Windows or are we talking built in obsolescence?
Today I tried a clean install of WinX. Afterwards my PC couldn't mount my Win7 drive. Unplug Win10 and everything works again.
Honestly. I give up.
I may not last forever but the mess I leave behind certainly will.
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OriginalGriff wrote: Upgrade.
Download ISO version.
Reformat HDD and install from ISO.
Why these steps? I have not updated yet but the November release should accept Windows 7 and 8.1 keys so that the first step can be omitted. That is one reason why I'm waiting.
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Because clean installs are always more stable.
I'm going to follow his suggestion.
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It would be a clean install to skip the first (upgrade) step and then format the HDD.
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That's fine if you want to pay for your copy of Win10.
But if you want to upgrade for free, MS needs to check if you have a valid OS. this is done during the upgrade.
Then it also saves a few hash values representing your hardware, that allows you to make a clean install afterwards.
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Pretty sure that's what Jochen meant. Why do step #1 (ie. upgrade)?
There are two types of people in this world: those that pronounce GIF with a soft G, and those who do not deserve to speak words, ever.
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