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Jeremy Falcon
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One hour to set up a page with some basic styling.
Two hours and a complete rewrite to set the height of a specific element 
Why CSS, why!? 
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I know. I wrote a little RoR app for a friend, took about a day with all the functionality they need for their intranet. Put in styling? Another two days for, basically, three forms & 8 pages.
veni bibi saltavi
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Why? Because HTML and CSS never made up their minds what they are. A layout description language for static documents? A GUI? A dynamic frontend for 'apps'? And what would they be without the third apocalyptic rider, JavaScript?
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a f***ing golf cart.
"I don't know, extraterrestrial?"
"You mean like from space?"
"No, from Canada."
If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.
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The ultimate CSS resource[^].
Unfortunately, the site itself is offline, but the way-back machine has copies.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Sander Rossel wrote: Why CSS, why!?
Well - I don't know. It works for me.
Even have generic auto-formatting pages driven by database table and creating generic tables based on SQL return (if any), including column headers - and all solid enough so a DBA with now HTML/CSS (or anything beyond VB6) can create reports. Sizing and positioning options all built in options, or safely ignored by defaults - even mixable, and its handled.
Now I will admit that they're all .php files - but that shouldn't make a difference.
Also, I have not the least qualm about using tables - and poop in the direction of anyone who thinks I ought not.
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Holy crap! 
And to think there's a "vertical-align" property... 
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You have to learn to think in CSS. It offers flexibility, and with that comes issues until it's mastered.
Jeremy Falcon
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Jeremy Falcon wrote: learn to think in CSS
That would be funny if it wasn't so true, I used to dream in a language when I was learning it. VB then c# have both driven nightmares in the early learning stages.
I refuse to learn the current web stack as I shudder to think what my sub conscious would deliver if it had HTML and CSS to play with.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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I have to mutilate the mind?
Always assume the most illogical?
At least you'd always be thinking out of the box, I never get that alignment right!
At this point I'm happy when "height" actually sets height (spoiler: most of the time it doesn't) 
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Ha ha. Height is one of those old school religious concepts that just got carried over into CSS. The best way to think of it in web land is there is no height. You can still make it work though, you just have to dance around some issues.
Look at this way, if it were easy, then um it would be easy. Ha ha.
Jeremy Falcon
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"Hamlet was a confused, vile lag." (7)
Nice an easy today to make up for yesterday!
Andy B
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Possibly a little smidgen tooooo easy? 
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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Perhaps  . Will try harder next time!
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It was really hard not to post the answer immediately - but I have done one this week...
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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VILLAGE
(anag of "vile lag", means hamlet)
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... is clearly the correct answer . Well done! Your turn tomorrow .
Andy B
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Hi
Has anyone ever gotten Xamarin.forms for android to work?
I have been battling xamarin installation for about 3 weeks now and all i am getting are errors.
I have removed VS, reinstalled it, installed, reinstalled android sdk,xamarin etc to no avail.
I think i will just go back to Ionic, never had this kind of problems.
The errors are so vague, and checking online i can see so many people having the same issues without any solution for them
Any framework/platform shouldn't be this difficult to install and run.
in my language, Na wa o!(i.e its a wonder o)
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Xamarin Form (for Android, iOS and even WinPhone) user here!
What is your problem exactly?
The problem which plagued me the most is everything seems to work fine but build fail. But in the log file it tells of a zip file to download an unzip in some specific location. DO what it tells and it fixes the problem for good.
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Weird.
I installed VS2015, did what it told me to do, and it worked right out of the box...IIRC, it was months ago.
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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Me too. Although I develop for Xamarin.Android exclusively (right now).
/ravi
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Quote: reinstalled android sdk
Just a quick hint, do not use standalone installers. Let the installer itself manage everything. Do (as said earlier) as it says and you'll be left alone.
The sh*t I complain about
It's like there ain't a cloud in the sky and it's raining out - Eminem
~! Firewall !~
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I've developed several apps using Xamarin and think it's a great development environment. What problems are you having specifically?
I also use Telerik Platform which is another awesome development environment for creating mobile apps.
"There are two ways of constructing a software design: One way is to make it so simple that there are obviously no deficiencies, and the other way is to make it so complicated that there are no obvious deficiencies. The first method is far more difficult." - C.A.R. Hoare
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