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Oracle sucks.
Oracle tools suck - they look like something out of the '90s - they want me to use the command line to install/uninstall stuff. How is this a billion dollar company?
Even then the uninstall didn't work so I'm digging around in the registry because Oracle for .NET has so fragged VS2008 that I cannot even establish a SQL connection anymore. It really is a crappy product.
Seriously, die in a fire.
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Oracle's drivers and file system structure suck and I'd also love something like Management Studio for Oracle.
But as the database is designed for other billion dollar companies, the command line tools are just fine. Admins can run them in scripts, in scheduled jobs at night ... instead of clicking through them again and again for ever virtual machine they have to install.
This statement is false.
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Corinna ? This must have been ages !! What brings you around here ? Lost something in a picture and looking for it   ?
~RaGE();
I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus
Entropy isn't what it used to.
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I don't know why both cannot be done well.
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Corinna John wrote: I'd also love something like Management Studio for Oracle
Why not use TOAD or SQL Developer? 
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Long time, no see, Corinna - Welcome! 
Yep, a gazillion years ago Oracle sent me a free copy of Oracle 8 - I tried it for a few days and uninstalled it. Not even worth trying to master that junk.
Will Rogers never met me.
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MehGerbil wrote: How is this a billion dollar company?
By not investing thousands of dollars in developing a Fisher Price UI that everybody will anyway criticize and by relying on solid good'ol' command line ?
~RaGE();
I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus
Entropy isn't what it used to.
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I suppose you still use DOS to navigate to files on your PC?
Because if you're using Windows Explorer then that is 'Fisher Price' and much too easy for a serious professional to use.
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I use TotalCommander  Given, this is not DOS, but the design did not evolve since Win98.
~RaGE();
I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus
Entropy isn't what it used to.
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Good Heavens!
I'm going to have to begrudgingly give you a +5.
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MehGerbil wrote: I suppose you still use DOS to navigate to files on your PC?
Often, but it depends on the task at hand.
"Use the right tool for the right job." -- Scotty
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If I haven't opened a command prompt window at least once on any given workday, I probably haven't accomplished much that day.
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I always have at least one open, often more than one.
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I write all my code in notepad. I haven't touched a modern IDE in ages. 
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Stick with what works. The Command line works, always has always will. What I can't stand is the ridiculous Webbish interface they created that doesn't work.
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That is what I'm complaining about - the UI I'm trying to use is clunky and doesn't work.
They're doing a terrible job of modernizing, IMHO.
Why not just use DIP switches instead of the modern command line?
modified 12-Sep-14 11:11am.
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Dip switch is old technology. Use the punch cards instead.
~RaGE();
I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus
Entropy isn't what it used to.
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 Some people have too much time on their hands.
~RaGE();
I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus
Entropy isn't what it used to.
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Rage wrote: Some people have too much time on their hands.
They have all that time because they use a modern UI to get their work done during the day.
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The command line is not outdated technology. In fact, it is still vastly superior to the point and click interface. See the immediate window in the VS-IDE, see Powershell, see Telnet. A trained user is also an order of magnitude faster typing the switches than someone navigating all kinds of Windows with expensive (and buggy!) controls.
The only machine that does not come with a command-line is called a "games console".
Bastard Programmer from Hell 
If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
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Eddy Vluggen wrote: The only machine that does not come with a command-line is called a "games console".
Or a Mac -- but even they have a command line now don't they? I stil lhaven't seen one on my Droid yet either.
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It's not installed, so you have to do that yourself[^].
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PIEBALDconsult wrote: Or a Mac
I prefer real meat.
Bastard Programmer from Hell
If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
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