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Considering the amount of their product I consume, I should be given a substantial share in Starbucks. But do you think they will give me a single share of stock? Naaah! Ungrateful sunshines! 
How do we preserve the wisdom men will need,
when their violent passions are spent?
- The Lost Horizon
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Not even a cup, those greedy bastards! 
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Going to Starbucks for coffee is akin to going to prison for sex
veni bibi saltavi
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I don't know why Starbucks does this, but many people have remarked that the quality of their coffee here in the USA is much better than abroad. Believe me when I tell you that in America Starbucks is one of the better brands!![Java | [Coffee]](https://www.codeproject.com/script/Forums/Images/coffee.gif)
How do we preserve the wisdom men will need,
when their violent passions are spent?
- The Lost Horizon
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But how long will that share last?
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15 minutes (the average time for a breakfast)!
Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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Gin - Breakfast of Champions!
veni bibi saltavi
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Before the VStudio Community edition released you had to install 3 different VStudio products to get all of the project types. It was crazy.
Finally, I installed VStudio 2013* Community which seemed to do everything but I never uninstalled all those other products. Now, I'm going through and uninstalling
Visual Studio Express 2013 For Web
Visual Studio Express 2013 for Windows Desktop
Visual Studio Express 2013 for Windows (EDIT: uninstall has been running for 20 minutes still not done)
Can't believe how slow the uninstall is.
I'm glad Microsoft finally brought these all back together again.
*I know, Community 2015 is available, but that's another crazy thing. Looks like you can't upgrade 2013, but you have to uinstall and install 2015 seperately.
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Visual Studio has become so bloated it's unreal.
Jeremy Falcon
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Unreal is actually still a separate installation
If the brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn't. — Lyall Watson
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Sascha Lefèvre wrote: Unreal is actually still a separate installation
And you want to talk about bloated...
The last upgrade from 4.10.1 to 4.10.2 was a 2.2 gig download. 
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If the brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn't. — Lyall Watson
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Jeremy Falcon wrote: Visual Studio has become so bloated it's unreal.
I know and it's unfortunate that installing a new version just leaves the old versions out there.
Well, I guess they could say it is for compatibility reasons.
Anyways, the Desktop version is still uninstalling and the progress bar hasn't moved even though it's been like 35 minutes or something.
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Quote: I know and it's unfortunate that installing a new version just leaves the old versions out there.
That would require everyone to upgrade at the same time so that Solutions can be loaded.
Some people are very slow adopters.
From an aesthetic point of view, the last version I liked was 2010. All the new versions are flat and should have come standard with an intravenous caffeine dispenser.
Cheers,
Mike Fidler
"I intend to live forever - so far, so good." Steven Wright
"I almost had a psychic girlfriend but she left me before we met." Also Steven Wright
"I'm addicted to placebos. I could quit, but it wouldn't matter." Steven Wright yet again.
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Really? VS2015 Enterprise Update 1 takes up 218MB on my machine. Around 1GB with all the web packages. I agree it got a ton of bloat in the past. But this new update is super slick!
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When all is said and done, even MS says it takes up about 10GB[^]. That's like 3-4 times more than Windows itself, and for what? It's not media intensive, like a video game would be... it's a fancy text editor that can be slow (try working with XAML) with a compiler or three behind it.
It's bloated.
Jeremy Falcon
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Ok, I am curious: Can you add plugins like the Windows Installer XML (WiX) to the Community Edition? What about Microsoft's Ribbon plug-in? I have no use for it, if the answer is negative. I suppose the 2015 versions of VS are still native 32bit apps, not 64?
Later edit: See this thread:
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How do we preserve the wisdom men will need,
when their violent passions are spent?
- The Lost Horizon
modified 3-Feb-16 12:45pm.
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I just looked for a project using WiX installer and couldn't find anything in community 2015.
Maybe there is some way to get it but it doesn't look like it from my initial search.
Also, I can't tell if it's native 64 bit version or not. Installed on a 2014 R2 server 64 bit vm but I just can't tell if Community 2015 is true 64 bit or not. Very difficult to tell. Looks like it is installed under Program Files (x86) though.
I built a winform as 64 bit and tried debugging and it allowed it so maybe that is fixed, not sure.
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Thanks for your response. To add WiX functionality in the past, you needed at least the Pro version of VS. That probably still applies - A pity.
I don't think any versions of VS are native 64bit apps. Yes, they can build 64 bit apps, but the VS engines themselves have always been 32 bit.
How do we preserve the wisdom men will need,
when their violent passions are spent?
- The Lost Horizon
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Use SharpDevelop to Create and Compile your WIX projects.
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Community is Pro with a different license.
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Probably, it's close to the same as Professional, most obvious difference is the omission of TFS support.
Comparison chart here[^].
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I cannot find any reference to the Windows Installer on the chart. I have also tried Google, but cannot find a direct answer to my simple question: "Can I add the Windows Installer XML (Wix) to the Community Edition of Visual Studio 2015?" If any one knows the answer, please let us know. It's kind of important to me. In previous versions of VS you had to have at least the Pro version for this plug-in.
I do not want to go through the whole rigmarole of installing VS 2015 Community Edition, just to find that I cannot have WiX!
How do we preserve the wisdom men will need,
when their violent passions are spent?
- The Lost Horizon
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As far as I know, Community Edition is identical with Professional when it comes to features. I remember reading that the only difference is the license.
I haven't used WiX, but I have no problem installing all other kind of add-ons, free or paid. I see no reason why Windows Installer should behave differently.
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Yes, you can use WiX and other extensions, such as Laurent Kempe's excellent Git Diff Margin, with VS Community Edition.
Note that WiX toolset does not currently appear in Tools/ Extensions and Updates for VS2015 (any edition); it must be downloaded directly from WiX Toolset[^]
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