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I bought a Windows Phone about a month ago.
I've recently installed Windows 8.1 on my laptop.
I've a subscription to Office 365.
I've been enjoying how everything works together and I love the live tiles.
I'd like to eventually get a Surface Pro 3.
I think it is a snazzy little ecosystem.
I hate to see Windows Phone not do well - I just don't see what is so wrong with it that it isn't selling better.
I guess I think it is a really good product.
I don't understand the hate - and the diminishing market share.
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"One OS to rule them all" is not what most customers want.
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I doubt your assertion.
Given the learning curve for an OS I think most people would want exactly that.
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People don't want the same controls on their microwave ovens as those that are on their gas or electric ovens, because they are used for entirely different purposes.
The telephone and the computer are far less alike than ovens and ovens.
Win phone is bluddy brilliant.
Win 8 is a pain in the @rse.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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PIEBALDconsult wrote: "One OS to rule them all" is not what most customers want.
Explain iOS to me then.
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I'll translate PIEBALDconsult's post for you:
"I'm an Apple fanboi. When they do stuff it is awesome; however, when Microsoft does it then it is doody-headed. [insert fart noises]"
^---- PIEBALDconsult will claim that is a mis-translation but you shouldn't believe his lies.
I'm glad I could help.
If you need any other posts translated just ask.
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iOS doesn't run their lappies, does it? Isn't that Mac OS X? I thought that was different?
But iOS runs on tablets, and phones, just like Android does.
And no, I'm not an Apple fanbois: they sell overpriced, over hyped tat.
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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How's their market share looking? 
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And since when has popularity been a hallmark of quality? 
You'll be telling us you're a Beleiber next! 
Life is like a s**t sandwich; the more bread you have, the less s**t you eat.
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PhilLenoir wrote: you're a Beleiber next
She's number one -- with a bullet.
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You bring the gun, I'll get the bullet.
Life is like a s**t sandwich; the more bread you have, the less s**t you eat.
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Can I pull the trigger please!
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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In my opinion, the big problem is that Microsoft don't believe in it.
The only reason they've come up with the Windows Phone is to try and cash in on the mobile market. I'm sure that they'll drop it eventually (they have a long record of dropping projects) and focus on tools for mobile app development by buying Xamarin.
That's where they should be really, software, unless they're making high-end seamless systems (which Windows Phone, Windows 8/8.1/RT, Surface (again, in my opinion) aren't).
How do you know so much about swallows? Well, you have to know these things when you're a king, you know.
modified 31-Aug-21 21:01pm.
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Yeah. Let's be honest, they aren't good at making physical products: Tablet PC[^], XBox360[^], ... and they do have a habit of sticking fingers into companies and trying to make them "better" when they buy them. And in effect giving them a Ribbon and a SHOUTY menu... 
Sometimes I wonder if MS know what they are good at?
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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I've been around the block with every phone from Blackberry to IPhone to Android to Winphone back to IPhone and Back to WinPhone.
I love WinPhone! For me it is the ultimate device, except you can't run ITunes on it.
That seems to be how Apple snared in the young people. My kids started with Ipods and worked up to Iphones...the music library came with them.
Getting the Iphone people to switch to winPhone would be the same as asking someone to get rid of their albums/CDs and migrate to a streaming music library (most would recoil at the thought)!
:JeffF:
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I'm enjoying my Windows phone as well, but for different reasons.
Boss: "How come you didn't get that email I sent at 10PM last night?"
Me: "I asked IT to get me hooked up with the BYOD policy, but they don't support my phone OS, sorry."
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What, is your shop on Lotus Notes? Windows Phone integrates perfectly well and easily with Exchange and GMail. I know, 'cause my current and previous Windows phones (7.5, 8.0 and 8.1) do.
If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP.
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It's not the email system that isn't supported, it's the corporate-mandated kill switch that has to be installed in all BYOD devices.
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I think WP is better in business environments, in my last 2 jobs, I didn't need to ask for Access to remote email or SharePoint sites, just added the Outlook account and WP discovered the servers and settings. iPhone and Android needed IT assistance.
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Hello, Android user here. I have a Windows phone at work. It doesn't have service, I just develop on it occasionally. And I like it a lot. It's years ahead of Apple's design in my opinion. So why do I use Android personally? Because I am completely stuck in their ecosystem. 'Stuck' may be a bad word as I like their products. But I use GMail, Calendar, Music (I pay for this), Drive (I pay for extra storage), Docs, Sheets, YouTube, Hangouts, Books, Photos (every photo I've ever taken I have uploaded), and Voice. Almost all of those daily. In fact, I have NO SMS provider on my phone and solely use Google Voice/Hangouts for SMS/MMS.
Microsoft can't offer this. And as always they were years late introducing their phone (and tablets). Yeah it's nice, but it would be a nightmare for me to switch ecosystems at this point.
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I had a Windows Phone 7 (which was supported up to 7.5 then I was left with an obsolete device), it was that phone that convinced me to move to an iPhone (and begin my gradual switchover to Apple) - after years of resistance 
I hated that I couldn't see how much battery or signal I had without swiping down at the top of the screen all the time, then having it disappear again after a few seconds. Very frustrating when you're trying to send a text from a moving train!
I was amazed that the SharePoint app didn't work with SharePoint on Windows 7, that the YouTube app was a link to the mobile website, that I couldn't get all the common apps that my wife was using on her iPhone - basically it was pretty much useless. Added to which it broke after two weeks when it encountered a couple of grains of sand in my pocket.
Perhaps on Windows Phone 8 they improved all of this, but by then it was too late for me - and probably quite a few other potential customers.
How do you know so much about swallows? Well, you have to know these things when you're a king, you know.
modified 31-Aug-21 21:01pm.
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