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What was the motivation? Where's the positive side?

Ron Harshbarger31-Jan-13 0:38

31-Jan-13 0:38

Yes I code for Windows boxes but I use them too! I just spent an incredible waste of time putting together a PowerPoint® presentation and I can't understand what the motive was for taking something that basically worked pretty well and had a friendly interface ( read that almost intuitive ) and muck it up to the point where it is just about useless not to mention annoying! Maybe if I had never used a previous version I’d think it was great…or maybe not! What ever happend to "Don't fix it if it isn't broke!"?

Re: What was the motivation? Where's the positive side?

Richard MacCutchan31-Jan-13 0:47

Richard MacCutchan

31-Jan-13 0:47

Progress, my friend.

Re: What was the motivation? Where's the positive side?

Matthew Faithfull31-Jan-13 0:50

Matthew Faithfull

31-Jan-13 0:50

I couldn't agree more and it's not just Powerpoint which I've used since version 3 and of which 4.3 Pro was the pinnacle IMHO. All the MS Office tools have been getting worse for a few years now, Word turned after about 2003. I still hold onto and use some of the ancient versions but compatability issues make that more and more of a problem.
I always assumed they were removing options and messing up the UI because US users prefered it that way but I think in the end its just because they have had no serious competition for so long. What else are the Office development team going to do but fiddle with what isn't broken and hand code interop assemblies ( Will drive anyone mad who has not already had the treatment )

"The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage."
Thucydides (B.C. 460-400)

Re: What was the motivation? Where's the positive side?

peterchen31-Jan-13 1:17

peterchen

31-Jan-13 1:17

Ron Harshbarger wrote:
"Don't fix it if it isn't broke!"?

Said the monkey in the tree, said the fish in the sea, says slide-pushing Ron Harshbargee.

I started to get over my Office 2010 grudge when I started to treat it as a new software. It's not PowerPoint anymore, it's something new called PowerPoint.
Now, with Office 2013 and the flattened de-ADHD'd ribbon, it's fine.

ORDER BY what user wants

Re: What was the motivation? Where's the positive side?

Rage31-Jan-13 1:46

Rage

31-Jan-13 1:46

I find the MSOffice suite awesome. Plus, what are the alternatives ? Try and change a footer in Open Office, and come back in two months.
I bought Office 2010 Professional Plus Edition yesterday for 50€ for my new home computer, and this is definitely good invested money.

~RaGE();

I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus
Do not feed the troll ! - Common proverb

Re: What was the motivation? Where's the positive side?

Mark_Wallace31-Jan-13 1:57

Mark_Wallace

31-Jan-13 1:57

Rage wrote:
for my new home computer

And therein lies the tale.

For professional or power use, it's turned to garbage.

The optimal version is still 2003; everything since is comparatively useless.

I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

Re: What was the motivation? Where's the positive side?

Rage31-Jan-13 2:07

Rage

31-Jan-13 2:07

Underestimate what I am doing home with my computer, you shall not, young Padawan.

I have 2007 at work as well, and am the PPT-type-of-guy, and actually happy with it.

~RaGE();

I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus
Do not feed the troll ! - Common proverb

Re: What was the motivation? Where's the positive side?

Mark_Wallace31-Jan-13 2:33

Mark_Wallace

31-Jan-13 2:33

You should upgrade to 2003. You'll never regret it.

I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

Re: What was the motivation? Where's the positive side?

Rage31-Jan-13 2:34

Rage

31-Jan-13 2:34

Nice

~RaGE();

I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus
Do not feed the troll ! - Common proverb

Re: What was the motivation? Where's the positive side?

PIEBALDconsult31-Jan-13 3:47

PIEBALDconsult

31-Jan-13 3:47

Mark_Wallace wrote:
The optimal version is still 2003

That's what I still use at home. Stuck with 2010 or something at work. Dead | X|

Can't find anything.

Re: What was the motivation? Where's the positive side?

Manfred Rudolf Bihy31-Jan-13 2:10

Manfred Rudolf Bihy

31-Jan-13 2:10

If you don't mind telling me where you've gotten that bargain, I'd be glad to know.
Everywhere I'm looking it's above 500€ for the Professional version, which is a bit more than I would want to spend right now.

Do tell!

Cheers!

"I had the right to remain silent, but I didn't have the ability!"

Ron White, Comedian

Re: What was the motivation? Where's the positive side?

Rage31-Jan-13 2:24

Rage

31-Jan-13 2:24

On ... eBay.fr. Might be some licenses left, but I cannot check from work as the site is black-listed here.

~RaGE();

I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus
Do not feed the troll ! - Common proverb

Re: What was the motivation? Where's the positive side?

Manfred Rudolf Bihy31-Jan-13 2:40

Manfred Rudolf Bihy

31-Jan-13 2:40

Rage wrote:
from work as the site is black-listed here

Same here, I'll have to wait until I'm home. Thanks anyway for your hint! Big Grin | :-D

Cheers!

"I had the right to remain silent, but I didn't have the ability!"

Ron White, Comedian

Re: What was the motivation? Where's the positive side?

Mark_Wallace31-Jan-13 1:59

Mark_Wallace

31-Jan-13 1:59

The only time my computers get rebooted is if an update requires it -- which is why I've got several months' worth of updates backed up on most machines, and one where a reboot has been "postponed for four hours" since October.

I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

Re: What was the motivation? Where's the positive side?

Mark_Wallace31-Jan-13 2:02

Mark_Wallace

31-Jan-13 2:02

How on Earth did this get attached to the wrong thread? Did a rung fall off the hamster wheel?

I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

Re: What was the motivation? Where's the positive side?

Rage31-Jan-13 2:09

Rage

31-Jan-13 2:09

The possible answers are:
- You answered to the wrong thread
- The thread you answered to was not the correct one
- You answered the wrong thread

~RaGE();

I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus
Do not feed the troll ! - Common proverb

Re: What was the motivation? Where's the positive side?

Mark_Wallace31-Jan-13 2:32

Mark_Wallace

31-Jan-13 2:32

There's only one Reply link available when you're reading a posting.

I think the Y2K1D3 bug has struck.

I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

Re: What was the motivation? Where's the positive side?

Richard MacCutchan31-Jan-13 2:10

Richard MacCutchan

31-Jan-13 2:10

Looks like you posted it there.

Re: What was the motivation? Where's the positive side?

emartinho31-Jan-13 8:35

emartinho

31-Jan-13 8:35

"These aren't the threads you're looking for...."

Re: What was the motivation? Where's the positive side?

RedDk31-Jan-13 9:50

RedDk

31-Jan-13 9:50

Arrrrgh covarrrgh 'yarrrgh rivets me harrrghties! Roll eyes | :rolleyes:

Re: What was the motivation? Where's the positive side?

PIEBALDconsult31-Jan-13 3:49

PIEBALDconsult

31-Jan-13 3:49

Ron Harshbarger wrote:
if I had never used a previous version

Yes, the new interface may be fine for they who haven't been using it for thirty years, horrible for we old dogs. Both interfaces should be available and let the user decide which works best for them.

Re: What was the motivation? Where's the positive side?

jschell31-Jan-13 8:41

jschell

31-Jan-13 8:41

Ron Harshbarger wrote:
What ever happend to "Don't fix it if it isn't broke!"?

That of course won't generate new sales.

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