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Well there goes all the fun.
Jeremy Falcon
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One of the comments:
Thanks, Anthony! While I’m not now, nor have I ever been a Visual Basic user, I’m 10000% in support of your no-bashing policy. I’m sure my VB-loving friends will appreciate a safe space to learn about and discuss their favorite language.
Reading that one, it's beyond any shadow of doubt that these gentle creatures have been historically subjected to brutal bullying by the rest of the clan. I shouldn't be laughing. Like, at all. But sorry, I find it funny. 
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I'm sure they're relaunching development under the project name: Snowflake
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics."
- Benjamin Disraeli
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Bashing of any version of the Visual Basic product family or their users will no longer be given a platform here.
Feeling a bit insecure, are we?
Marc
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And justifiably so, they're VB programmers. 
Jeremy Falcon
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They actually got enough VB programmers together to make a team?
New version: WinHeist Version 2.2.2 Beta I told my psychiatrist that I was hearing voices in my head. He said you don't have a psychiatrist!
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This will make a great difference to my lifestyle.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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We should have an official CP Lounge VB day.
All the positivity of a year's worth of VB blog messages would be soundly countered by the negativity unleashed on that day.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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I'm curious about us developers whom have the unfortunate (or fortunate depend on your taste) of being on call. I used to do that for 10+ years on my previous job, hated every minute of it. Waking up at 3 am just to solve some silly issue. Recently I just turned down a position with Amazon, the pay is among the best ($250-300K) but I just can't cope with the On-call.
What are your opinions on on-call, especially work/life balance goes?
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Work/life balance is a myth
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Only if you choose for it to be.
Software Zen: delete this;
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Wrong.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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Looks like I'm one of the few who gets that you meant it as a joke. 
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Well there are American developers..
And there is the rest of the world! 
We are pretty good here in Australia!
modified 1-Feb-17 1:56am.
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It can be hit and myth, thyure, but you've got to take the rough with the shmooth.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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I'd be okay with being on-call for a few days a month, but if it's a 7 days a week 52 weeks an year thing, I am not sure I can take that.
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being on call is one thing.... Actually getting called is another. This all depends on how often my off hours get interrupted.
If it's not broken, fix it until it is.
Everything makes sense in someone's mind.
Ya can't fix stupid.
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I used to get calls at 2 A.M. when I wasn't even listed as being the member on call. Having to get dressed and go to the office that early in the morning, sucks. And no consequences (not even a comment) for the guy who was supposed to be on, and take the call, didn't make it any better.
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Leng Vang wrote: What are your opinions on on-call, especially work/life balance goes?
It was a requirement at my first job, which quickly no longer applied to me. Slept through some calls, and whenever I didn't I would still have to wake up some coworker to get anything done. You'd get paid extra for it, ofcourse.
There's no such thing as work without pay. That simple sentence is a kind of auto-balance system in itself 
Bastard Programmer from Hell 
If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
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You are my hero! 
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I wouldn't mind being on call if paid overtime. My previous job and the one from Amazon are not. Being on a fixed salary and they expected 60+ hours out of developer and even I spend 3 hours support at 3 am, I expected to show up for work at 8 am. No over time paid.
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Leng Vang wrote: Being on a fixed salary and they expected 60+ hours out of developer and even I spend 3 hours support at 3 am, I expected to show up for work at 8 am. No over time paid.
Those kind of hours and times make you less productive, and the more tired the programmer is the more bugs one can expect.
As a worker, you are trading time and knowledge for money. By working "for free" you're accepting an unfair trade. So, don't do that
Bastard Programmer from Hell
If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
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I was on call form about two years, and hated it - you couldn't plan anything without considering what would happen when the phone rang.
But ... in two whole years the only call I got was one night on the way back from a lads night out when a little drunk. From my boss who was just as inebriated and in the back of the same car... B*st*rd.
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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Its really a young man's game to get some cash in the bank. As you get older, your family become more important and your life priorities change.
I did it for a number of years, but as I've aged, I now have no interest in the stress or hassle and disruptions that comes with it.
I find it eventually wears you down.
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