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OriginalGriff wrote: Now drag the tab back to the original Edge window and drop it on the tab bar.
Yes, that's right, you get a third window with your page in, and the previous window goes to the "new tab" page.
Well, yes, because you're dropping it on the empty bar which effectively activates the 'new window' command. You're supposed to drop it on to a tab in order to integrate it into the existing tab order.
By the same logic, if you drag a tab off the bar you don't get a drop symbol because you're not actually dropping it (in the strict drag and drop sense) only removing it from the tabs. You only have to clear the tabs to create a new window from it, in fact. It's not necessary to leave the confines of the window much less go to the desktop.
It may be a tad unconventional but it makes sense.
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Super Lloyd wrote: I don't think I have been able to have 2 Edge windows open at the same time ... snip ... Am I missing something?
Sanity ?
cheers, Bill
«I want to stay as close to the edge as I can without going over. Out on the edge you see all kinds of things you can't see from the center» Kurt Vonnegut.
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Just had an email from a friend, whose email account had evidently been compromised. I'm sure we're all familiar with the situation - email, with nothing indicating the nature of our relationship, with a link (I was sensible enough not to follow). Naturally enough, I didn't click the suspicious link, and let the sender know along with advice to change her password and let her contacts know.
However, I didn't notice the mail immediately because it was (correctly) identified as Spam. During all this it occurred to me that it would be really *freaking* useful if mail clients performed the additional step of noticing suspicious emails from contacts in my address book, and notifying me so that I can, in turn, notify them.
I've sent emails to the mail services I regularly use to suggest this as a future course of action. May I suggest this to other users to contact their email providers.
"If you don't fail at least 90 percent of the time, you're not aiming high enough."
Alan Kay.
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 I like that idea. I think I'll integrate something like that into my email client (which I am slowly but surely working on)
What do you get when you cross a joke with a rhetorical question?
The metaphorical solid rear-end expulsions have impacted the metaphorical motorized bladed rotating air movement mechanism.
Do questions with multiple question marks annoy you???
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That feature would require some way to verify that the message actually came from the sender, and wasn't spoofed.
Looking at the "received from" headers wouldn't be enough, because those can also be spoofed.
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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I requested my password for a site that I hadn't logged into for many years. I got the email and it said exactly,
Quote: You requested that your password for the members area be emailed to you.
Here is your password:
You can login at the URL below:
1) It appears that they will send your password directly via email.
2. It also appears that I may have never logged in before. 
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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On the bright side, they saved you from pasting that token and then getting your new password. 
The sh*t I complain about
It's like there ain't a cloud in the sky and it's raining out - Eminem
~! Firewall !~
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Hoy!
You did not copy your password!
You did not copy the URL!
Whassa matter with you? 
How do we preserve the wisdom men will need,
when their violent passions are spent?
- The Lost Horizon
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Hi All,
Still messing with with Win 10 (like every body!), I still have not found out if Secruity Essetnials installed, went to the Microsoft mother ship to see if there is anything about it, I can see the down loads for 7, 8 & 8.1 but not 10. I think it must be installed as default but I'm not sure. I click the Win 10 tab and it sends me to update to 10. Just paranoid thats all
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Notification Action Centre (near to clock on right) - click then -> All Settings -> Update & Security. and click
2nd item on the left menu. Windows Defender - click ... the settings are in the right pane.
modified 1-Aug-19 21:02pm.
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I thank you sir!
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and I thank you too.
Recently, I've noticed Windows having a few fails on discoverability. How the fudge am I supposed to guess that?
"If you don't fail at least 90 percent of the time, you're not aiming high enough."
Alan Kay.
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As stack overflow often gets mentioned here ... I assume it would be OK to mention other places where knowledge can be shared and acquired.
http://www.tenforums.com/[^] is one such place
modified 1-Aug-19 21:02pm.
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Rob Grainger wrote: How the fudge am I supposed to guess that?
Click on the search bar, type defender settings, and select the Windows Defender Settings option in the list. 
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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It is present in Windows 10, I have ran it like 10 mins by now. 
Search for: Windows Defender.
Tip: Don't ask Cortana, she might say, "Satya is the defender for Windows".
The sh*t I complain about
It's like there ain't a cloud in the sky and it's raining out - Eminem
~! Firewall !~
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A given: Quote: Tip: Don't ask Cortana,
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I got back late last night from a customer location. It was a six hour drive home to recover from one of the worst planned software rollouts I have been a part of. The project already had a tight deadline when the customer moved up the launch by a full month.
It has been non-stop since mid-April on this project, during which we got very little feedback from the client despite having the application available for testing and approval for the last four months. Originally, we were to have 10 pilot sites for a month and phase in the remaining 50 sites on a schedule. Instead, we got 1 which did a really lousy job of actually using the application through a two-week test period providing very little feedback...not to mention there was not phase-in schedule and we went live with all 60 sites yesterday. 
I figured it might be a little hectic, and we might have a few hiccups, but I was totally unprepared for the onslaught of phone calls about problems they were having. Two people were fielding the back to back phone calls and bombarding me with questions and giving me post-it notes with issues, all reporting major problems with the software. It didn't take long to figure out that a database join in a stored proc was to blame...the day before, the client had asked for some of the options to be removed from a setup screen. Since those options were isolated to a database table and were no longer needed, a developer (who I shall not name here) thought it would be a good idea to comment out the code that created the record in the now defunct table...you know, save a transaction, and all that unnecessary processing...
By the time we caught the error and fixed it, the issue had been compounded when the users failed to see the new item in the list and assumed it didn't get created (can you say duplicates?) This of course, led to confusion when the real problem was corrected, only to now reveal the ugly consequences which now have to be cleaned up over the weekend...not to mention fixing quite a few programming/design flaws that helped lead to the chaos. 
I generally keep my composure, but by 4 PM (knowing I had a 6 hour drive home) I reached a breaking point and posed the rhetorical question to those with hearing distance 'Does anyone have a gun!!!'... thinking 'uh-ho, that was supposed to be my inner voice!...did I really just say that out loud?'
I suppose it could be worse...half of the sites were able to get through it without a problem.
"Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse
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kmoorevs wrote: ...from one of the worst planned software rollouts I have been a part of...
kmoorevs wrote: but I was totally unprepared for the onslaught of phone calls about problems they were having
kmoorevs wrote: providing very little feedback...not to mention there was not phase-in schedule and we went live with all 60 sites yesterday
kmoorevs wrote: ...not to mention fixing quite a few programming/design flaws that helped lead to the chaos.
kmoorevs wrote: led to confusion when the real problem was corrected, only to now reveal the ugly consequences which now have to be cleaned up over the weekend...
Now I know where you work. What makes you think they ever plan anything? Just assign every task to a different underling with a minimum of information / documentation / specifications. Project management by hand waving at its best.
kmoorevs wrote: 'Does anyone have a gun!!!'
Not so quick! Wait until the hand wavers figure out how all this is actually your fault.
Tar and feather them, throw them out of the guild and then out of the town, I say.
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a f***ing golf cart.
"I don't know, extraterrestrial?"
"You mean like from space?"
"No, from Canada."
If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.
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kmoorevs wrote: planned software rollouts
Planning is for people who don't know what they're doing.
kmoorevs wrote: testing and approval for the last four months
Testing is for people who don't know what they're doing.
kmoorevs wrote: half of the sites were able to get through it without a problem
Probably the half that didn't use the system. 
I hope you use this a an 'I told you so' next time a customer doesn't play along before the next deployment.
My plan is to live forever ... so far so good
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kmoorevs wrote: using the application through a two-week test period providing very little feedback
Welcome to reality.
I sometimes think users won't report problems because they fear it would make them seem foolish. Instead they give us the lame excuse that they didn't have time to test or if they did test, they didn't have time to communicate their problems.
Our most frustrating times were when they'd say, "I was doing something and it gave an error." Do you remember what you were doing? "No." Did you write down the error message? "No." Do you remember what the error message said? "No." And then they'd ask, "When will it be fixed?" (That would be when I'd want a gun)
Right behind all that (if we were doing a new version) would be, "It doesn't work like the old program." (Duh) "It's too confusing." (Because it doesn't work like the old program)
I'd rather train new people on the new program than retrain old users on the new program.
Psychosis at 10
Film at 11
Those who do not remember the past, are doomed to repeat it.
Those who do not remember the past, cannot build upon it.
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Wow,
This stuff still happens in todays world. AMAZING.
Sorry you got hit by this. But we REQUIRE an absolute code freeze for 1 week before going live.
This is for everyones safety.
Also, we schedule weekly review meetings. Their team needs to tell us what they have and have not tested/validated and signed off on. If they fail to do their part, it delays the project.
I feel for you. But I value my life and health too much to be pushed into doing things the wrong way.
I wish all IT people would push back against unreasonable customers. Nobody would demand that their wives have children in 5 months because the timing does not work for them in 9.
Best of luck.
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What do you get when you cross a joke with a rhetorical question?
The metaphorical solid rear-end expulsions have impacted the metaphorical motorized bladed rotating air movement mechanism.
Do questions with multiple question marks annoy you???
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Happy Birthday for tomorrow!
Doing anything special? "Special number"?
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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I'll be 23. Not sure what I'll be doing.
What do you get when you cross a joke with a rhetorical question?
The metaphorical solid rear-end expulsions have impacted the metaphorical motorized bladed rotating air movement mechanism.
Do questions with multiple question marks annoy you???
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