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Me: I'm having some trouble understanding your data model. The Foo in this table doesn't match the Foo in that table and there are bidirectional, implicit relationships between two other tables that have no referential integrity. The "BarId" on "EntityA" seems to match with "BarId" on "EntityB" but there is a "Bazinga" on "EntityA" that matches a different "EntityB" where "EntityA.BarId != EntityB.BarId" These conflicts are making it very difficult to trust your schema and it is also very difficult to know which version of the database's facts represent our real business data.
Vendor: I don't see any issue. It appears you just have not been provided with clear details on how our data model works. You see, three plus five equals threeve.
Me: Beg pardon?
Vendor: Three plus five equals threeve. This is simple math.
Me: Three plus five is eight. There's no such thing as threeve.
Vendor: Are you trying to insult my intelligence?
Me: ...I don't think that's how math works.
[later]
Bean Counter: [Vendor] just informed me that you didn't know that three plus five is threeve. I thought you were an expert and I hear you can't even do simple math. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/threeve[^] Just make it work!
Me: ...
"I need build Skynet. Plz send code"
modified 1-Dec-15 10:00am.
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Alaric_ wrote: Three plus five equals threeve
Surely you have heard of user Types, this is obviously a custom implementation of ThreePlusFive
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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Alaric_ wrote: "I need build Skynet. Plz send code"
Don't do it, SkyNet is dark side of the force. 
Patrice
“Everything should be made as simple as possible, but no simpler.” Albert Einstein
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Alaric_ wrote: Vendor: Are you trying to insult my intelligence?
No, I wasn't trying.
Bastard Programmer from Hell 
If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
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Just placed an order.
The item was just under €20,- so I proceed to checkout, but last second I noticed the "gift wrap" option which I very much wanted.
So the checkout page loads and I have to pay an additional €2,95 shipping and handling.
Hit the back button, check the gift wrap for €0,75 and proceed to checkout again and... Apparently the shop has free shipping above €20,- which I now have with gift wrap paper
That gift wrap just saved me over €2!
It's the little things that count and this one just made my day 
I also thought we could use some nice stories with all these troubles going on (see post below)
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The people who determine these arbitrary limits are not very bright I've decided. It's hard to see how they stay in business!
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Sander Rossel wrote: It's the little things that count
Very true! I've made bad investment decisions (some decades ago) that cost me several thousand dollars, yet I take great pleasure when I'm able to wangle a 10% discount discount on a $50 item.
/ravi
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My sister once spent 20 minutes trying to wangle 5 baht from a Balinese vendor once, that was about 2c in those days. I think they both enjoyed themselves.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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"The joy of wangling a bargain is only exceeded by the joy of returning a product (after a year of use) for a full refund."
--Ancient saying
/ravi
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There is a site that helps you do that.
I can't find it at the moment but you basically enter the amount you have shopped and then suggests items to add so that you get to the "magical" 20€ number.
Damn my memory, can't even remember where I saw the article about that site 
Tom
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- Missing iPhone back-up file. No solution yet reported.
- Windows 10 update borks networking - requires full OS re-install.
- VS2015 SP1 update borks itself - slash, burn, re-install. In progress.
- Developers to be replaced by AI. Hmmmm? Maybe not so bad, considering... 
There are two types of people in this world: those that pronounce GIF with a soft G, and those who do not deserve to speak words, ever.
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Maybe. But since developers will be responsible for installing the AI I guess we'll never find out!
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You forgot the plethora of '... OTD'
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I installed VS 2015 update 1 and now can't run Visual Studio at all - it loads the IDE but the whole thing is un-clickable
So - looks like a slash and burn reinstall is needed.
(I think it is something to do with the android emulation so I'm going to unselect that and see how it goes...)
Update : Issue is caused by Parallels compatibility - message is "MUX: P8 - Could not access network location \psf\Home\Desktop."... fix detailed here[^]
modified 30-Nov-15 15:46pm.
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So I guess you're where OG was on Saturday? 
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The PC is loaded with a fresh Win 10 from ISO, Most of my software is re-installed and it seems to work fine, except my Wacom tablet which won't run the full width of one monitor at the moment, much less two, and I just remembered I need a printer, damn it!
It looks like the problem was a combination error with the upgrade: an Upgraded system (from 7 to 10) that includes a VM (VM Ware) deletes the entire network stack and refuses point blank to reload it. And the stability was badly affected by all this with the "usable life" of the system shortiening each time it booted. After a few hours it was obvious that it would be quicker to reload from scratch. I couldn't even restore from backup, because this would almost certainly have happened again in a weeks time if I had. I could thankfully restore all my apps, code, etc., so that wasn't a problem.
Next (after the printer - oh and a text editor, forgot PsPad) will be a full disk image overnight and I should be sorted.
There are times when I hate computers...
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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Obligatory XKCD[^]. 
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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OriginalGriff wrote: There are times when I hate computers... 
I don't hate computers, but sometimes I loathe the programmer who wrote the code that the computer runs. I have come to believe that if everyone would code like I do then the world would be a better place.
Jack of all trades, master of none, though often times better than master of one.
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And if everyone programmed like me, Moores law would be every five years. 
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Thats better than Murphy's law which seems to be every few minutes.
Jack of all trades, master of none, though often times better than master of one.
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OriginalGriff wrote: There are times when I hate computers
Don't worry, they're about to learn how to program themselves[^] and sort everything out.
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I used to hate maths, then I realised that decimals have a point.
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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So long as they are not being irrational.
"the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment
"Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst
"I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle
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