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Program Manager: "Well, is it ready ... or not ?"
Project Manager: "I'd say it's ripe."
Program Manager: "What the hell does "ripe" mean: do we ship ... or not ?"
Project Manager: "Well, I'd say it's down to only 75% StackOverFlow, 10% CodeProject, 20% open-source, 20% out-sourced, and 5% original."
Program Manager: "That's 130% !"
Project Manager: "Yeah, we went the distance on this one."
Program Manager: "That 5% worries me though."
Project Manager: "I'll sign off on that."
Program Manager: "Okay, let's ship it as a release, then."
«I want to stay as close to the edge as I can without going over. Out on the edge you see all kinds of things you can't see from the center» Kurt Vonnegut.
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BillWoodruff wrote: Program Manager: "Well, is it ready ... or not ?"
Project Manager: "I'd say it's ripe."
For a moment there I thought it was EA, but they never release over 90% 
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Well those missing % are released as separate dlc, announced before release date and sold within a week.
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BillWoodruff wrote: 75% StackOverFlow, 10% CodeProject
With those metrics, you're bound to run into trouble 
Bastard Programmer from Hell 
If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
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I've heard pretty similar conversations. it sounds a lot like the person responsible (senior dev, or dev manager) explaining themselves to their boss when nothing is getting done
Elephant elephant elephant, sunshine sunshine sunshine
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Quite hilarious. Blows my mind that this was an actual conversation, just because I've never heard anything put that way before. I guess it speaks to how some products are created from a lot of existing code from various sources with a dash of internal 'magic' sprinkled over them (optimizations, integrations, and product-specific business logic).
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More likely its from Incompetent Managers that don't know how to listen to the SW Developer and give them some realistic timeframes.
Been there and Done that before
The Irishman
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Yeah, true - happens too often.
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Smik Lakhani wrote: this was an actual conversation
This is a product of Bill's imagination, written with ironic exaggeration as comedy, but, it is very loosely based on actual experiences Bill had ... long ago ... flavored with a garam masala of contemporary references
cheers, Bill
«I want to stay as close to the edge as I can without going over. Out on the edge you see all kinds of things you can't see from the center» Kurt Vonnegut.
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 Could you at least tell the market this vendor is in? Too much Harry Potter, not enough concern for your fellow man.
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Charles Programmer wrote: tell the market this vendor is in
The market is imagination, the vendor is the mind of the reader cheers, Bill
«I want to stay as close to the edge as I can without going over. Out on the edge you see all kinds of things you can't see from the center» Kurt Vonnegut.
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I'm surprised the manager could add those numbers in his/her head on the fly. Better than average manager.
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Is it illegal where you are to kill your son?
It's Sunday night. The Boy (18) went out with friends to the city to get pissed and stay over a friends place.
The Daughter (15) is in bed.
So I plan on getting some rooting from the wife.
Now the Boy is on the way home and wants to get picked up from the train station. I'm on beer 9 (?) and once the wife finds out she's all ready to pick him up and I'm getting nothing.
As the only Mike Hunt in this household earning money I think they can all get faarrrkkkked and I'll spend whatever I earn on myself until the ATO (Tax faarrrkkkers come and get me). Haven't done the past 2 years tax as working for myself I have to put the money aside for tax. Unfortunately I live with f***wits who don't understand that every dollar in isn't mine to spend.
Michael Martin
Australia
"I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible."
- Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
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You really have to be desperate if you need 9 beers before..."getting some rooting from the wife"...
Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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Michael Martin wrote: So I plan on getting some rooting from the wife.
Root beer? 
Michael Martin wrote: Unfortunately I live with f***wits
I guess calling your family f***wits must be some Australian thing...
Or a "I-drank-9-beers" thing...
Michael Martin wrote: Is it illegal where you are to kill your son?
Probably not, but I don't have a son so I'm not familiar with that kind of law.
What I DO know is that "because he wanted me to pick him up" isn't a good reason for aforementioned kill.
Every son or daughter calls at least once during his teens to pick him or her up (and with once I mean a gazillion times).
Think of something better, like "he's an evil mastermind keeping me from my root and so making humanity go extinct!".
It's just an idea, but I think you can work it out from there
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Sander Rossel wrote: Michael Martin wrote: Unfortunately I live with f***wits
I guess calling your family f***wits must be some Australian thing...
Or a "I-drank-9-beers" thing..
I'd say it's an MM thing; but other than also including "I-drank-9-rums" things I'm not sure there's much of a difference. Or at least not when looking at what he posts here. OTOH MM's drunk posts are at least understandable, something that DD's rarely were.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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Dan Neely wrote: I'd say it's an MM thing
Good, I was starting to lose faith in Australians 
Dan Neely wrote: MM's drunk posts are at least understandable, something that DD's rarely were
I assume you're talking about any of DD's posts!
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Sander Rossel wrote: Dan Neely wrote: MM's drunk posts are at least understandable, something that DD's rarely were
I assume you're talking about any of DD's posts!
Well his CCC's for sure anyway. 
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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All CCC's... Never got the hang of that 
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Normally I;m the same, but I think I got today's bonus easy CCC[^].
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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I already knew the answer when I read "Nagy"
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Well, sounds like a typical scene of happy domestic bliss on a Sunday night.
cheers, Bill
«I want to stay as close to the edge as I can without going over. Out on the edge you see all kinds of things you can't see from the center» Kurt Vonnegut.
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I misread that as "getting some routine from the wife". That's nice, having your wife do some of the development work.
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Michael Martin wrote: The Boy (18) went out with friends to the city to get pissed
Michael Martin wrote: I'm on beer 9
I sense a pattern repeating.
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