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Hi All,
Currently I am in the process of using VS 2005 for a project with no problems. But as an aside I thought I would try a later version of VS to see if it can be upgraded with out problems. So I go to download VS latest express, and find 2015 Community edition. Not an Express doesn't appear to be limited. Is this really what I think it is (full & free)? I take it M$ are spying on you some how?  Or are they giving the Keys to Kingdom away (I feel the need to listen to the Spin Doctors!)
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Pretty much yes - it's the full version, and it's free.
There are terms and conditions though - mostly related to the size of your company - and you should read them carefully: MICROSOFT VISUAL STUDIO COMMUNITY 2015[^] though there is a syummary at the bottom of here: Free Dev Tools - Visual Studio Community 2015[^]
Be aware that if you upgrade a project to VS2015, you won't be able to open it again in VS2005. I would recommend good, solid backups before I started experimentation. If you are using VS2005 on original period hardware, you may find 2015 far, far too sluggish to use...
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OriginalGriff wrote: If you are using VS2005 on original period hardware, you may find 2015 far, far too sluggish to use...
You may find that regardless of system and hardware... 
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I haven't migrated to 2015 yet - I only moved to 2013 last year - and I have found that my new SSD makes it really usable! Load time is about 6 or 7 seconds from click to "ready to code" instead of a couple of minutes, and compilation seems faster as well. I suspect that MS developers all have nice fat pipes, and nice big SSD's...and don't give a rat's ass about anyone else. 
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My biggest issue going from 10 to 15 on my work laptop is that 10 was small enough I could normally run 2 instances and have enough headroom for the rest of my software and mandatory corporate bloat in 8gb of ram. 15's big enough that having 2 copies running will generally start swap chugging when I switch to whatever major application I used least recently. On days when the bloatware is feeling particularly hungry (I've occasionally seen both MsMpEng and the servicehost running updates bloat to >1gb each at the same time and squat there for hours) I've had it happen with only one instance of 15 running.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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Bearing in mind, the opening time, the fact that I am pretty much used to the 2005/08 interface and the speed I will not upgrade the project. It's just a relay card that I was looking at using came with an example using Vis C# 2010 so I thought to upgrade itand just use it for reference.
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The interface is pretty much the same (in the case of 2013, once you get rid of the Goth look, and the SHOUTY menu). But the later versions of C# and .NET do include some pretty useful stuff, that wasn't in 2005.
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OriginalGriff wrote: once you get rid of the Goth look
How?
If it's not broken, fix it until it is
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Tools...Options
Environment, General, Visual experience:Color Theme (Light or Blue)
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Oh OK. I'm using this theme[^]. I thought you meant you knew of a way to change that silly flat look.
If it's not broken, fix it until it is
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Quote: Color Theme (Light or Blue)
Or "Dark" Don't forget the dark side  My tired old eyes like the dark option.
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I think of that as the "depressed Goth" look... 
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Yes, Community Edition are feature-rich compared to Express Edition. It's free (You just need to activate using your email.)with few terms: for example, free for individual developer, small organization (revenue less than 1 million USD) etc. Free Dev Tools - Visual Studio Community 2015[^]
I have been using VS2013 community edition and its good compared to previous express editions and working out great.
Happy coding.
Thanks,
Milind
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Yes. I have been using the 2015 Community Edition for a while now, and can recommend it. It is the full McCoy, not limited like the Express versions were. It takes longer to load a project than my 2012 Pro version, but not to the extent that it bothers me. My advice: Go for it, but as suggested above: Backup projects in case you want to go back to 2005.
I do not know why it's free, but I appreciate the fact that Microsoft is not charging for it.
Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!
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The tl;dr version:
Community edition is virtually the same as Professional edition minus support for TFS and limited to five users per company
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It just that it seems odd, VS is / was one of there key products. 
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I believe they're losing momentum among small startups.
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The restrictions on who can use Community make that mostly a non-concern. Meanwhile it lets startups, indie developers, and those of us who want to fiddle with MS tools at home have access to most of their goodies even though VS remains prohibitively expensive (especially if you're just working on a codeplexgithub resume).
Now if someone could just convince Jetbrains to offer Re#er community edition. I never realized how much I used their refactoring options until I didn't have them.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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Jörgen Andersson wrote: minus support for TFS
Really?
I got mine to connect to my online TFS account at home, can't remember if I had to do anything special for it or not but don't think so.
Or is it only no support for offline TFS?
Tom
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I have been trying to install VS 2015 Enterprise for 2 weeks - don't seem to be making any progress
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Just when you least expect it (or want it) the "free" will bite you in the arse, expecting some money...or your soul.
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Slacker007 wrote: or your soul.
Well, you do have to sign up for a Microsoft developer account with a valid email address...
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Quote: Well, you do have to sign up
Really, all I did was pop in my E-mail and had to add noting else. Does this mean I already had an account or more likely my hard drive was copied and Redmound are going to filter through it later?
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They were already outside your window peeking in.
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