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That is another option, a pity something that worked on a truly old blackberry is not working here, but... I'll check it.
Thank you Vikram! 
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Windows10 updated yesterday - and was a PITA about it. Finally completed, I turned off for the night and relaxed.
This morning though... 
No network. None whatsoever. My adapter doesn't even switch into gigabit mode... And win 10 is refusing to admit any connection exists, or to add a new one.
Why do you do this Microsoft? Why do you make me hate windows10? And why is the new settings app so completely useless?
Two hours, the reboots, and it *might* be ready to admit that my Ethernet network actually exists - not actually connect to it, no. But existence is a start...
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And last week I was thinking about to check this SP1 - now I think that even a VM is waste of time ans space...
Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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I'm trying to rollback the update via a restore point - but that needs my windows password, so if got to reboot back into windows to find that, so I can unboit back ty recovery mode to see if windows created a restore point before it cr@pped allover my computer...
It looks like it's a windows sockets problem - like there aren't any or something.
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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Put all your password into passwordsafe (or a similar product) let it live in dropbox (or a similar service) synch it to your portable bits.
Why do people who a religious about backups not do this to passowrds! 
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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I have my own password manager, which is backed up every which way I can think of - but it only runs on Windows because I haven't got round to learning Android yet...
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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Most of us just use "password" for the password for all accounts, soooooo - who needs a password backup? 
Charlie Gilley
<italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape...
"Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
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I like to make it difficult, I use a capital p!
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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unrelated quick question:
What's your first pet's name?
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Why password of course...
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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Now you know how MS improved Security Essentials - if there's no internet connection, there are (almost) no viruses. 
If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack.
--Winston Churchill
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Yes. You can still get them via an infected USB drive or some such.
If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack.
--Winston Churchill
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Which sounds to me that there needs to be yet another patch to remove USB capability as well.
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I'm sure they're working on it 
If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack.
--Winston Churchill
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OK - it's not hardware.
I've changed HDD to a spare I used for test restores before the Win10 "upgrade" and it boots Win7 with full networking(I may have mentioned that I like backups before?). So it's the latest MS Win10 update that has b*gg*r*d my system.
And gawd, but I'd forgotten just how pretty Win7 was, how "together", how seamless.
But...Windows 10 it must be, I guess. So I'll download the latest Win10 ISO on this, and reinstall for a clean setup on a third HDD. Maybe that'll "just work"...
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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Aren't you wasting time here? Stick with 7!
Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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Get thee behind me Satan! 
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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With the exception of Win10 VMs (to verify that my software runs properly on Win10), I intend to have nothing to do with it. The UI is horrible, the snooping is intolerable, and the bugs are incredible.
Other than that, it's the perfect O/S.
If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack.
--Winston Churchill
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Daniel Pfeffer wrote: perfect O/S
You missed it there ...Microsoft clearly states, that Windows 10 is a service - no OS anymore. If you want OS you should look elsewhere...
Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter wrote: Windows 10 is a service
There is another usage of the word 'service' (as a verb, not a noun), but I'm not sure it is KSS.
If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack.
--Winston Churchill
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OriginalGriff wrote: how "together", how seamless
It's interesting, isn't it?
I get what they tried to do, but they do need to bring things back completely under a single paradigm.
And this does not mean bringing them all under a dumbed-down paradigm. The number of times I have to hunt down the network property dialog to fix things that the lame-as Network settings page just can't handle drives me nuts.
cheers
Chris Maunder
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Chris Maunder wrote: It's interesting, isn't it?
I do tend to agree with you about the settings screens being terrible - but it's just a matter of using them more to get used to them I think (aside from the obvious missing functionality, of course!)
I am stuck with Windows 7 at work and I must admit, I find the UI very outdated in general and don't find it a pleasant experience to use anymore, but I do like feeling like a power-user still: able to actually control my own windows experience.
Dumbed-down would great if it could just sort everything out without me thinking about it. Windows X.13?
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And it's getting worse, not better - once-good apps are Win10ifying and becoming useless.
I used to use VLC and it was excellent. So a clean install of the OS later, and I thought I'd try the latest version: vlc-for-windows-store[^] and it's useless! It's lost all the tools, keyboard operations, settings...and the display shows green bars where the old one didn't... Hello Mr Uninstaller...hello old version...
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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From Windows 10 November update: FAQ[^]...
1. "Windows 10 is a service" - I think you should install an OS first to run a service...
2. "If it’s been less than 31 days since you upgraded to Windows 10, you won’t get the November update right away; this will allow you to go back to your previous version of Windows" - obviously there is no going-back after this update. Don't even dream about 7...
Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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