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I'm pretty sure that people are allowed to say what they think.
But...there are laws (in the UK at least) against making statements inciting hatred against any race, religion, gender, and / or sexual orientation.
Trumps little rant would break those, and render him unsuitable as a visitor to the UK.
Fury's comments would also break those, and render him a bad role model. So why should he be in the running for Sports Personality Of The Year?
We have similar rules here: if I started ranting in the Soapbox about the need to "keep Muslims off CP" or "ban all pooftas" then my account would (rightly) be closed so fast I wouldn't have time to make a coffee! And I wouldn't expect to get it back either.
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OriginalGriff wrote: "ban all pooftas"
Rule No 6??? 
Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant
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The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine
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I'd just like a chance to prove that money can't make me happy.
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1, 4, and 6, probably! 
And of course Rules 1, 3, 5, and 7[^] (Youtube, audio probably NSFW)
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I'll ignore the fact that you totally missed my last sentence.
OriginalGriff wrote: So why should he be in the running for Sports Personality Of The Year?
Depends on what the intention of SPOTY is
1.) If you go for the literal interpretation of the awards name, specifically, 'personality', he shows more personality than the rest of the contenders, and therefore should win by a mile.
2.) If you go of the BBC's statement defending his inclusion where they claim is is about "sporting achievement only", then he should definitely be a nominee, debatable whether he should win or not.
OriginalGriff wrote: I'm pretty sure that people are allowed to say what they think.
Not without impunity it seems.
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Quote: there are laws (in the UK at least) against making statements inciting hatred against any race, religion, gender, and / or sexual orientation.
Problem is the legal scope of the word 'inciting' there is a huge difference between 'I dislike xxxx' versus 'xxxx are disgusting - stone / kill / maim / blow raspberries at them'. I don't think the UK courts have yet really scoped where that dividing line stands amongst the grey area between the two. The impression many people get is that it is very close to the first example - possibly too much so, and to be honest, currently guided more by media assassination rather than by court of law.
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I would like to see Trump get the Republican nomination and go on to the White House. This is not because I agree with anything he says, I don't, but because our very own acid-mouthed bleached-blonde-bigot, Ms K Hopkins, has said that should he win she'll go to Merca!
Help us Merca! You're our only hope!
veni bibi saltavi
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He is starting to prove that what's in his head is slightly more hideous than whats on his head.
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Each year people argue about the SPOTY nominations, and then they argue about the winner and I'm amazed.
Amazed anyone still pays any attention to the nonsense.
Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them.
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PompeyThree wrote: how will we know who the dicks are anymore?
Because there will still be politicians running for office in the US and you can hear them on Fox News.
Marc
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PompeyThree wrote: If we ban people from saying what they think, how will we know who the dicks are anymore?
Just find RyanDev.
Michael Martin
Australia
"I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible."
- Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
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Quote:
The Manchester fighter ... subsequently said: "Tyson Fury loves his fellow humans. He doesn't hate anybody."
Anyone who refers to himself in the third-person is obviously a massive tool. 
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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PompeyThree wrote: If we ban people from saying what they think, how will we know who the dicks are anymore?
Go to your polling place on election day and look at the names on the ballot: All of them.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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PompeyThree wrote: If we ban people from saying what they think, how will we know who the dicks are anymore?
Nonsense. Self-righteous as*holes will still refer to people that speak their minds as dicks.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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I have no particular position regarding Trump, but having lived and worked in the Middle East for over twenty years and seen it all up close, I am very aware of the danger posed by believers in Ummah to the Western World.
However, it has occurred to me that Trump may not be able to what he says anyway. So, does the establishment clause = 'Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof...' - stop him from doing it, or could he fix it with a regulation of some sort, that is not construed as a 'law' per se?
I would be most interested in the view of an American, as there has been some discussion on the matter over here.
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Tyson Fury, not really took much notice of him as I not at all a sporty person, however I have taken notice because of the contriversy, the point is that why he did it?, Trump is a tool but again I can't help feeling he did it to give the party a way out if they want to deselect him, he's just not that stupid.
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I'm not sure what dictates who is eligible for SPOTY. Many sports persons with seemingly no personality have succeeded in winning this award.
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PompeyThree wrote: If we ban people from saying what they think, how will we know who the dicks are anymore?
But they're not banning them from saying anything. If they were trying to do that they've already failed. They are simply exercising their right to say that people shouldn't be rewarded for saying things that are manifestly stupid, wrong or damaging (in their opinion).
It's not like petitions ever work anyway. The Beeb is steadfastly refusing to remove Fury from the short list and Trump won't be facing limitations on his travel, unless he goes the whole hog and gets himself convicted of something.
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☿♀♁♂♃♄♅ [7]
I had a clue ready "Yee Gods, look at the size of them!", but it was never needed. 
veni bibi saltavi
modified 9-Dec-15 5:24am.
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 first one of these I understood.
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So what is the answer...if you understand it?
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Well if I give the answer then I will have to devise one for tomorrow. And since this is the first and only one that I have understood, let alone solved, I think that may be a challenge too far.
I could give a hint but that would be usurping Vilmos's role.
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Something with females and males, and maybe some witchcraft?
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A categorical NO.
veni bibi saltavi
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