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Hi All,
I have had a wine about BT and then posted some thing positive, which got a mix of Reply's, now they have done the ultimate. Went back to my flat today. Got a number of jobs done (still haven't done the washing up that has building since before Christmas though) got a phone call from a number I did not know, answered it, it was my Mum. Seems BT have connected a number that is not my parents. BT have connected the wrong number to the house! To any CPians who work for BT tomorrow you might want to call in sick. 
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Have another wine or 2.
Peter Wasser
"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts." - Bertrand Russell
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Umm I'm on Beer at the moment, it have to be 3 though, 2 was finished as typed the warning!
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 BT is obviously very incompetent at what they do.
What do you get when you cross a joke with a rhetorical question?
The metaphorical solid rear-end expulsions have impacted the metaphorical motorized bladed rotating air movement mechanism.
Do questions with multiple question marks annoy you???
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Are they also sending the phone bill to the true owners of the new number?
If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack.
--Winston Churchill
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On the whole I'd be tempted to leave well enough alone. They'll never be able to just change the number without disconnecting it, cutting off the broadband and probably blowing up the exchange into the bargain. It could be June before you get another call! It's a working line, just be grateful for that! 
I am not a number. I am a ... no, wait!
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Quote: On the whole I'd be tempted to leave well enough alone.
I completely agree, they will break something sure as eggs are eggs. However it's not my line its my parents so good luck to them.
modified 19-Jan-16 11:51am.
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Here[^]
Awesome music.
If it's not broken, fix it until it is
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For crying out loud, would people just stop dying for five seconds already! I can't keep up! 
I am not a number. I am a ... no, wait!
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You have to admit, it will make one hell of a line-up.
This space for rent
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One of my favorite artists, and my favorite band. RIP, Glenn. ![Rose | [Rose]](https://www.codeproject.com/script/Forums/Images/rose.gif)
/ravi
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'the heat is on' will be played during his cremation.
In Word you can only store 2 bytes. That is why I use Writer.
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Eight years ago I created a table to keep a user from asking me for data every time they wanted to run a report.
A second person wanted the same data for a different reason.
I am sure you see where I am going....
Today the table has morphed into a major repository for data used by many processes. It was never well thought out as I point out frequently. To top it off, some of the data is created by "fuzzy" logic as there is no direct correlation between two bits of information they want to store.
Just a rant as the CIO just talked about using the table for reports, and I wanted to vent.
Mongo: Mongo only pawn... in game of life.
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Now you're done venting, I think you should pick up a book with baby-names and find an appropriate name for your creation.
Bastard Programmer from Hell 
If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
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Call it "SkyNet", and open it up to the web...
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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That'l teach you to hack something together for a user. 4 years down the track they want to move it to the core reporting structure and you KNOW it is crap.
I have just spent the last couple months writing forecast system whose data source is... excel. EVERY meeting I go into I tell them it is a disaster looking for a desk to happen on, every time I get told to just build the bloody thing. As MM would say FFAaaaaarrrrK!
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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Apple used to reign supreme at providing a simple, obvious UI for their products. The iPhone famously doesn't even come with a user manual, which is astounding given it was one of the (if not the) most sophisticated and complex consumer devices launched.
They Just Worked. Further, they were fairly obvious in how they worked.
But how times have changed.
Each iteration of the OS and the associated apps seem to involve more and more hidden UI cues. Jakob Neilson once railed against poorly discoverable UIs and it seems Apple is going deeper and deeper down that path. iTunes on the desktop and on the mobile device are two very different beasts, but they share a multiple personality disorder when it comes to trying to understand how the UI works. Is it a menu at the top? A sidebar? Is it a section heading that's actually a dropdown menu that switches the context in exactly the way (but different!) to the icons in the bottom bar? It's turned into a huge guessing game.
I think I'm going to send the Apple UX guys a copy of the book Don't Make Me Think: A Common Sense Approach to Web Usability[^]
cheers
Chris Maunder
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Chris Maunder wrote: Apple used to reign supreme at providing a simple, obvious UI for their
products. The iPhone famously doesn't even come with a user manual, which is
astounding given it was one of the (if not the) most sophisticated and complex
consumer devices launched.
Made me laugh
I remember the DOS 5 manual, you could kill a man with it. Then came Windows, with no manual at all. I think that a desktop is a somewhat complexer environment than a phone. The ux-guide for the common controls has been around for quite some time, so we are talking about a tested and well-documented framework here, recognized by most people who touched a PC.
Still, it is a dumbed-down interface compared to any command-line. Making the buttons bigger and giving yet even less options is more of designing for toddlers.
Bastard Programmer from Hell
If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
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Note I said "consumer device".
Maybe I'm sheltered, but from memory every consumer device (including those tiny MP4 players) came with manuals in 10 languages that told you everything except how to most efficiently throw it against the wall when it stopped working.
cheers
Chris Maunder
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Chris Maunder wrote: Note I said "consumer device".
Noted. Please do take note that Personal Computers have replaced the so-called Home Computer.
Chris Maunder wrote: Maybe I'm sheltered, but from memory every consumer device (including those tiny
MP4 players) came with manuals in 10 languages that told you everything except
how to most efficiently throw it against the wall when it stopped working.
Even my mechanical alarm-clock with bells has a manual in umpteen different languages. Nearly everything comes with a set of instructions, a DISCLAIMER IN CAPS, a copyright notice, a trade-mark notice, list of ingredients, whether it is kosher or not and no real instructional value. The last VCR I have seen came with a manual that would make you cry as much as some XML-generated comments generated from source-code.
You were talking however about UI-design on consumer-devices, something mostly dictated by the OS. I would say that the Workbench from the Amiga is still superiour, but in terms of killing documentation on consumer-devices, I'd say Windows was a step ahead.
Bastard Programmer from Hell
If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
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Quote: I would say that the Workbench from the Amiga is still superiour,
I must admit I agree it worked and the right mouse button was sense. I had to use Windows 3 at the time no comparison
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Ah, how I used to love reading the manuals from the far east in those days of yore. The English was so bad it was comical.
I may not last forever but the mess I leave behind certainly will.
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Apple made a weird/bad/awful decision to merge both the legacy iTunes player and the new Music player.
I personally have no issue with iTunes for music player, but the integration with Music make me want to bark all over my keyboard.
I'd rather be phishing!
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Maximilien wrote: ...make me want to bark all over my keyboard.
Since k and f are no where near each other, I can only assume you indeed want to utter dog or seal-like noises. 
"One man's wage rise is another man's price increase." - Harold Wilson
"Fireproof doesn't mean the fire will never come. It means when the fire comes that you will be able to withstand it." - Michael Simmons
"You can easily judge the character of a man by how he treats those who can do nothing for him." - James D. Miles
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