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Hi,
Thanks for your constructive comments !
fyi: there are other reports on the web of this KB resulting in various types of problems, including the one I am having. This "freezing" problem is something I've only seen before in the context of Win (pre 10) loading up a corrupted dll that's on the start-up list, or, when there was a hardware problem with motherboard, or cables, or mouse, etc.
cheers, Bill
«There is a spectrum, from "clearly desirable behaviour," to "possibly dodgy behavior that still makes some sense," to "clearly undesirable behavior." We try to make the latter into warnings or, better, errors. But stuff that is in the middle category you don’t want to restrict unless there is a clear way to work around it.» Eric Lippert, May 14, 2008
modified 16-Oct-16 3:38am.
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0. Disconnect any and all network equipment (i.e. unplug Ethernet cables and turn off your wireless router).
1. Start the computer.
2. Kick windows update the f*** out.
3. Reconnect everything.
4. Install something (not made or endorsed by microsoft) that will pick essential windows updates, and install them for you.
5. Profit*.
* By not suffering from the unlikely combination of nightmares and sleepless nights that too many winio users suffer from.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Hi Mark,
Good advices, thanks; in situations like this the first thing do is to unplug, and then re-plug the cables for kb, mouse, usb drives, ssd drives, internal power cables. And, I have spare mouse and keyboard to a/b test those.
"Profit:" ... hey, I'd pay cash right now for some software that de-fanged Win Anniverary's "you will be assimilated" update policy that, even if you uninstall updates, like the one I mentioned here, will continue trying to ram them down your throat. I think such a utility would be as popular as the Start 8 (now up to Start 10 ... and, yes, I paid to update) win-menu utility.
cheers, Bill
«There is a spectrum, from "clearly desirable behaviour," to "possibly dodgy behavior that still makes some sense," to "clearly undesirable behavior." We try to make the latter into warnings or, better, errors. But stuff that is in the middle category you don’t want to restrict unless there is a clear way to work around it.» Eric Lippert, May 14, 2008
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BillWoodruff wrote: Win Anniverary's "you will be assimilated" update policy that, even if you uninstall updates, like the one I mentioned here, will continue trying to ram them down your throat
That's been around as a "feature" since winio was first released. The trouble is that it only affected a few hundred thousand people at a time, and ms doesn't listen to such "petty" numbers.
Updates to the operating system won't make the programs you need run better, but they can prevent you from using them, so why on Earth update?
Security updates, sure, but why should you care about the "great improvements" they make to the operating system? You only use the operating system to gain access to the programs you actually need to use.
Time you have to spend "getting the hang of" or "trying not to be totally defeated by" this piece of cr@p operating system is time of your life that is completely wasted.
The best you can possibly achieve is being able to use your computer as well as you used it 18 months ago.
400 million installs of winio? How many lifetimes have been washed straight down the toilet?
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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I've installed "Satan's spawn" (lovely phrase, BTW  ) on five machines at home with no problems whatsoever. Perhaps that is because when I upgraded them from Win7, I did a second (clean) install on all machines, removing any junk that had accumulated over the years.
If all else fails, you might want to try that route. 
If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack.
--Winston Churchill
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Hi, Daniel,
I upgraded over Win 8.1, and it went more smoothly than any other major upgrade I've done.
But, I guess the two-month honeymoon is over now.
from Win 8.1, cheers, Bill
«There is a spectrum, from "clearly desirable behaviour," to "possibly dodgy behavior that still makes some sense," to "clearly undesirable behavior." We try to make the latter into warnings or, better, errors. But stuff that is in the middle category you don’t want to restrict unless there is a clear way to work around it.» Eric Lippert, May 14, 2008
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That's it! I finally put my finger on it now!
You are a kindred spirit to Douglas Adams, are you not?! 
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Knock, Knock!
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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Go away, I've had enough of you Jehovah's witnesses already!
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But don't you want to know what he's accused of?
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Eternal damnation in hell for not handing out enough Watchtowers?
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Those guys dont believe in hell.. I was born and was there for about 16yrs before i pulled out
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16 years in Hell? I didn't know you had worked for McDonald's?
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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I never know what it is they do and don't.
They're open minded about gay marriage and sex before marriage (or so I heard), but they don't celebrate birthdays because that's glorification of a person and only God may be glorified (or some such).
Only Jehovah's witnesses are more open minded about sex than about birthdays.
Although a friend told me about a colleague who was a Jehovah's witness and brought cake to celebrate her cats birthday... (never her own, but of course a cat is not a person).
And then they have to spread the word[^].
I've also heard they're kind of cultish in that you cannot leave or they'll never speak to you again (including family) and anyone who does is kicked out.
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Yes its true.
No birthday
No prayers
No xmas
No new year
No Thanksgiving to God even for keeping them through the year
No engagement in sports
No relationship with outsiders (we all unbelievers)
Yes to alcohol
Yes to bf/gf relationship
Yes to segregation
They are blinded. I've been there and I know the differences...practically
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Why? They are so much fun.
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a f***ing golf cart.
"I don't know, extraterrestrial?"
"You mean like from space?"
"No, from Canada."
If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.
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Some are, but they always come at the worst times.
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OriginalGriff wrote: Knock, Knock!
02:15, enough drinking for tonight, off for a shower and then bed.
Michael Martin
Australia
"I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible."
- Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
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Glad to hear you do shower !
cheers, Bill
«There is a spectrum, from "clearly desirable behaviour," to "possibly dodgy behavior that still makes some sense," to "clearly undesirable behavior." We try to make the latter into warnings or, better, errors. But stuff that is in the middle category you don’t want to restrict unless there is a clear way to work around it.» Eric Lippert, May 14, 2008
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I did warn you not to play with that drill.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Who's there?
Will Rogers never met me.
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Hatch
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Gesundheit.
Knock knock...
Will Rogers never met me.
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Who's there?
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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Things that have always 'just worked' start failing. So far, the problems seem to be related to a setting that MS has kindly turned on, such as managing the default printer, or resetting security rights to certain registry keys. Thankfully, I only have a handful of clients using wenten.
No really, this was working fine three weeks ago...
Throw it on the server (2008r2) and it works! It just no longer works on my development box...Fine, swap in another viewer and it works everywhere again...even better! Still aggravating though.
