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Hi All,
I am testing some code in a new version of an old product. It has suddenly started to pass a test it shouldn't. Time to dig deeper or time to report it and pass it on? I'm think its time to go deeper but am not sure?
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I'd dig deeper - sound like the test is faulty, and that could impact current equipment.
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It is finally happening! Your code has become self-aware and has fixed itself.
... such stuff as dreams are made on
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NOT my code! I'm testing it 
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If it doesn't smoke, ship it.
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If it is good stuff, smoke it.
... such stuff as dreams are made on
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Hmmm, Silicon Oxide and Carbide, Umm no thanks!
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Since it isn't your code, dig deeper... find out what is wrong.
Document what you are seeing, what you find, and what you do to resolve the issue.
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If you know that the conditions are so that a test should fail, yet it doesn't fail, then there must be something wrong with your code!
(Saym your code actually fails the test, but immediately thereafter, a write through a stray pointer changes the verdict from 'fail' to 'pass' ... Certainly not very likely, but not failing when you know that it should is not very likely either.)
Gererally speaking: Failing to fail may indicate a failure.
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Member 7989122 wrote: Gererally speaking: Failing to fail may indicate a failure.
I fail to see your point.
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It used to be we would just test our code, usually by walking through it line by line (though maybe that's being optimistic) or, even more "archaic", we would write up acceptance test procedures and walk the application through the steps in the ATP. Now, with the advent of unit tests, what do we end up doing? Testing our tests! 
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Depends - what's your job? Do you have access to the source? What did your boss ask you to do? What's your skillset? Is this a wind-up question?
Asking daft questions can often give unexpected results too...
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My job is to test it. Not really specific its hardware or software 'it' being the metal box. Wasn't really a question to which I was expecting an answer more opions.  The person to ask daft question of was around but busy today (read don't bother him!) As for the source I am not touching it (safety critical system)... 
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glennPattonWork wrote: (safety critical system)
In that case it is easy: If it passes a test that previously failed, you need to raise it as an issue.
In general: Passing a test that is supposed to fail is of course a failure. Doubly so in safety critical systems.
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Not to worry it was bounced back to those who can. Just the Monday mutters 
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So I am forced into understanding how to use JSON in python for a private project (home automation), because I reuse some open source code.
And so far, I failed blatantly - I do not understand the point.
From an online tutorial example:
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import json
pythonDictionary = {'name':'Bob', 'age':44, 'isEmployed':True}
dictionaryToJson = json.dumps(pythonDictionary)
If we print dictionaryToJson, we get the following JSON data:
{"age": 44, "isEmployed": true, "name": "Bob"}
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So I do not grab the concept -> Why do I need a special format and functions to print the exact same thing that I had in the dictionary  ?? But I am still digging, so give me a couple of hours and it will be obvious. Hopefully.
My problem is not the printing, it is that the json stuff is a PITA when used with Unicode, and that's what the stuff I am working on is using. I'll end up rewriting everything, I see it coming..
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you dont have the exact same thing, first of all, the braces are missing as they are syntax in the definition of the dict, but are part of the OUTPUT for a valid json string.
json is nothing more than a simpler, better readable xml (to give you a reference about what json is).
json can do much more, same as xml can do much more than <tag>value</tag>.
json has arrays, objects, so many things that are more than a simple key/value pair as in your example.
use a json formatter as you would use a xml formatter.
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I am not convinced you can "do more" with JSON than XML, and I've never been sure why anyone felt the need to "invent " JSON when XML already existed. Anything you can do in one you can do in the other, and while JSON may be slightly less verbose, I wouldn't say it's easier to read. Personally, though, I regard both as the spawn of the devil. Ghastly things to deal with. Give me a proper database any day.
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I dunno - I quite like JSON as a data storage medium - not as a database, it's a text file, after all - particularly if you use Newton.JSON: you can add it to your project via the NuGet Package Manager (Tools ... NuGet Package Manager ... Package Manager Console)
PM> Install-Package Newtonsoft.Json Then it's simple: serialize or deserialize in one line of code!
string json = JsonConvert.SerializeObject(myCollectionOfObjects);
List<MyClass> items = JsonConvert.DeserializeObject<List<MyClass>>(File.ReadAllText(path));
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Yes, well NuGet is something else I avoid like the plague! I do use Newtonsoft (and it is a Godsend, though I could wish for better documentation for dealing with complex structures), but just give me the dll's, please, not some freakin' package manager.
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I used to think that, but I'm coming round - it means that the whole package is installed, so if there are dependant DLL's you don't have to scratch around to find them for each project.
The documentation could be loads better, yes! But that is ever the case these days. (And old days as well - remember MickeySoft MSDOS manuals with the "brick wall" learning curve?)
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I didn't mean, that "json is better than xml" - what I wanted to say, was, "that json can do much more than a simple key/value pair" as we have seen in the example of the op.
sorry if you misunderstood that.
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well, no - my bad - I did kind of get what you were saying - guess I was just taking the excuse to air my grievances at JSON, which I ma having to deal with right now, and loathe it!
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I don't think that "doing more" is the point, unless you're talking about BSON serialization.
A_Griffin wrote: JSON may be slightly less verbose,
That has my vote as the understatement of the year.
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