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Happiness will never come to those who fail to appreciate what they already have. -Anon
And those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by those who could not hear the music. -Frederick Nietzsche
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So, I'm extremely annoyed at MS these days. Every dang OS update I get some new advertising, etc. Anyway, so I decided to give Copilot (preview) a swing. Now, call me paranoid - I actually believe that corporations collecting data on us is completely out of control - with that said, I cannot run Copilot queries unless I'm logged into my MS account. There can only be one reason for that...
Charlie Gilley
βThey who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.β BF, 1759
Has never been more appropriate.
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charlieg wrote: I cannot run Copilot queries unless I'm logged into my MS accoun
That was previously true for chatGPT too, but I noticed recently that they will let you talk to it without logging in now. At least for me, it doesn't require me to log in at: https://chatgpt.com/[^]
Originally they said that it was so you didn't do crazy things with AI.
So, maybe that is what MS is thinking too?
or, they are tracking you like every other company in the world.
or both. 
Oh, and one reason it is nice that they "track" you is because later you can read over your discussions with AI that you had long ago. It's like a diary of your life. 
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I suspect you are correct. But this part: "It's like a diary of your life" - I have to laugh. My primary customer has gone full tilt into the MS eco-system. Can you say Teams? So now everyone is sending messages and files and what not over teams. The only problem is that there is NO data retention. Ah well, it's not going to matter much longer.
Charlie Gilley
7.1.2024 starts a new chapter of my life.
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charlieg wrote: Ah well, it's not going to matter much longer.
That seemed foreboding until I saw your sig line.
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lol, yeah, I'm going fishing. I'll keep my foot in the water on small projects, but I'm ready to slow down.
what's weird is I cannot get sig changes to stick.
Charlie Gilley
βThey who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.β BF, 1759
Has never been more appropriate.
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Oh Copilot half baked...
So, I'm fighting with a code base of ancient VC6++ code, trying to lift it to VS2022. I think, wth, I'll try copilot - since MS decided to push it to my computer...
My query: "best practices for migrating a vc6++ project to vs2022?"
The answer: "Sorry, it looks like you've been signed out. Please sign-in again." And yes I'm signed in.
 more half baked crap.
Charlie Gilley
βThey who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.β BF, 1759
Has never been more appropriate.
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charlieg wrote: I actually believe that corporations collecting data on us is completely out of contro
It's gonna get worse too if consumers don't take a stand.
charlieg wrote: There can only be one reason for that..
You can run your own ChatGPT-like bot locally with no accounts needed using something like Ollama . Unfortunately, they don't have the code base training that Copilot has though. Not sure how good it'll be at generating code, but maybe worth a try. Thar be a YT video on getting it going too.
Jeremy Falcon
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Perhaps they intend to give each user his/her own personalized/customized/curated AI experience, (including personalized/customized/curated ads).
modified 13hrs ago.
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raddevus wrote: It's too much!!
Was thinking about writing a package manager to read CP posts... 
Jeremy Falcon
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AND?
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Sean Parent IS in the guidelines.
He's probably a real parent and probably has real children.
CI/CD = Continuous Impediment/Continuous Despair
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Perhaps because these aren't required for an understanding of C++ programming?
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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Ding-Ding-Ding, winner!
"the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment
"Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst
"I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle
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Squiggly wiggily gollygoops itty bitty pasghetti poo pigglywiggly woospiedoo scribble scrabble spindingy zowzy tipsy topsy bazooka.
Jeremy Falcon
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I was laughing so hard, I clicked the upvote instead of the rotflmao emoji! 
"Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse
"Hope is contagious"
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I came to this thread just so I could read your response.
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Awwww shucks. 
Jeremy Falcon
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Of course those terms aren't in the glossary since those aren't the standard terms. There are base and derived classes that described an inherited relationship. One class A can be a member of another class B. A pointer to class A can be a member of another class B. That's basically it -- you're trying to create a new description to describe a relationship that already has a definition: member.
Be wary of strong drink. It can make you shoot at tax collectors - and miss.
Lazarus Long, "Time Enough For Love" by Robert A. Heinlein
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Of course those terms aren't in the glossary since those aren't the standard terms.
...and if I did say that ....
it would be my fault
I would be accused of posting programming question here
I would be told not to post instructions
i would be encroaching on volunteers time
and finally
nobody would help me anymore
so now "THEY" may blame you and I am truly sorry for
my inappropriate non post.
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