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Kevin Marois wrote: 33rd Tomorrow.
So you mean the same day. Remember we're from the future here in Oz.
Michael Martin
Australia
"I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible."
- Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
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Michael Martin wrote: A few hours short of 27 years ago Wade Frankum wandered through Strathfield Plaza and shot up a bunch of people with an AK-47. A few hours less than 27 years ago I got married and still going.
That sounds familiar. The wife and I got married December 6, 1980. Less than 48 hours later, John Lennon was shot and killed.
Software Zen: delete this;
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Gary Wheeler wrote: The wife and I got married December 6, 1980.
Faarrrkkkk you're old, about 11 days after you got married I finished 6th class.
Gary Wheeler wrote: Less than 48 hours later, John Lennon was shot and killed.
That prick should have been put in the perpetual arse raping cell. So many other talentless nobody musicians could have been lined up but he had to get Lennon.
Michael Martin
Australia
"I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible."
- Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
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congrats. ![Jig | [Dance]](https://codeproject.global.ssl.fastly.net/script/Forums/Images/jig.gif)
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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Congrats!
This coming December will be 33 years for the wife and I.
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Visual Studio 2017 version 15.8
August 14, 2018 by Visual Studio Blog
Today we are releasing Visual Studio 2017 version 15.8. In this version we have focused on productivity, performance and bug fixes. There are many new features you‘ll find useful...
So they are focussed on "productivity, performance and bug fixes"
but yet, "There are many new features"
new features a plenty, many of which range from useless to barely useful new features. (also left wondering how many new bugs these introduce.)
nary a note on which bugs were fixed - probably ran out of time packing in so much umm, err ... bloat.
really, since they abandoned the half cooked 2015 the vs team have really taken a huge turn for the worse. for the sake of stability I'm still chugging along on 2013, some new features look OK but not worth the headache (- rather stick to doing those 'new feature' things in a few more lines of code in a version that has less chance of letting me down).
dunno which is the bigger joke now: win 10 or vs 2017 updates and non-fixes.
This internet thing is amazing! Letting people use it: worst idea ever!
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I think I should start playing the lottery because I must be so lucky. People complain all the time about Microsoft but for me, their products work great and always work. I've been using Win10 and VS2017 for a while and have no issues.
Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it.
Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.
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011111100010 wrote: People complain all the time about Microsoft
Lots of hobbyists who will shout that anything Microsoft is to blame.
Still, there is a noticable shift in the products delivered; the company that catered to "developers, developers, developers" is now catering more to marketing. It feels like the emphasis is on new and sexy UI's, not functionality, usability or stability.
Bastard Programmer from Hell 
If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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Eddy Vluggen wrote: the company that catered to "developers, developers, developers" is now catering more to marketing.
Could be true, but I don't see it. They have a free version of arguably the most powerful IDE in the world. That seems to benefit developers dramatically. I've been doing Microsoft development for 20+ years and it just keeps getting better and easier. Sort of. 
Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it.
Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.
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011111100010 wrote: They have a free version of arguably the most powerful IDE in the world. That seems to benefit developers dramatically. I've been doing Microsoft development for 20+ years and it just keeps getting better and easier. Sort of.
The difference between the VC6 and VS2015 is a lot bigger than the more recent improvements.
Same trend is visible in Office and the OS itself; that is if you compare it to the previous versions. Still doesn't mean that there's a "better" version of Office 
Bastard Programmer from Hell
If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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Eddy Vluggen wrote: It feels like the emphasis is on new and sexy UI's
When did that happen? In terms of UI, they're so bland and colorless nowadays that apart from resolution, I swear you could re-do today's UIs on CGA video cards.
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Started with Office 95, and has been expanded on ever since.
dandy72 wrote: In terms of UI, they're so bland and colorless nowadays that apart from resolution, I swear you could re-do today's UIs on CGA video cards.
There is no money in changing the shade and color of a button. I prefer simple and practical.
Bastard Programmer from Hell
If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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Eddy Vluggen wrote: There is no money in changing the shade and color of a button. I prefer simple and practical.
...and can't tell where a control ends and the next one begins, because borders don't show up until you hover the mouse over them? Which isn't an option in a touch UI...
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dandy72 wrote: ...and can't tell where a control ends and the next one begins, because borders don't show up until you hover the mouse over them?
Which was the same nonsense; the buttons as defined in W95 with their fat border worked equally well - a prime example of something good that changed to something less great because it had to look sexier.
Bastard Programmer from Hell
If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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011111100010 wrote: People complain all the time about Microsoft but for me, their products work great and always work. I've been using Win10 and VS2017 for a while and have no issues.
Well...I mean...you got to turn the machine on. 
I don't think you're holding it right. 
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As far as I'm concerned they're making a concerted effort to drive people to VS Code.
For some needs...it's more than enough.
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I don't have a problem with the updates. I would rather have many updates then a worthless IDE.
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Slacker007 wrote: I would rather have many updates then a worthless IDE.
perhaps, one day, one of those updates would fix that IDE, oh but it's microsoft ... why fix stuff when it can be out shone by even more [useless] new stuff
This internet thing is amazing! Letting people use it: worst idea ever!
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Works just fine for me. I use it professionally (i.e. $$$) 8-10 hours a day.
Don't know how you are using VS2017, but I have no complaints. It used to be worse in year's pass.
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Oddly coincidental that you'd bring this up. I was just noting to my boss that I'm going to have to load some version of VS on my current work system.
It's not in need of anything powerful - might even do it w/o .NET - but I was thinking about whether to opt for a quick turn-around (VS2008) or catch up with now-ness (VS 2017). I think 2008 is a safer bet.
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If it's just one language, i.e. c#, I'd suggest a 2010 express over 2008, it's way more finished than 2008, equally 'lite' and more stable.
If you are mixing things up more then go 2013 - more stable and way lighter than both 2015 and 2017, super easy to setup. (way less bloated than 2017 and no need to wait for 'yet another update' if only used from time-to-time).
At home I use 2013 (out of the box settings/menus), and for many clients sites the 2010 c# express (for localised compiles/quick updates), source moves really easily both ways between 2013 and 2010 - not so much 2008.
BTW: another side effect of bloat is can spend ages looking through the menus for stuff coz they keep moving it around to make room for new crap. Of course you can customise menu's - but that's a pain in the ass having to sync-your-settings between [virtual and physical] machines at multiple locations - some of which I don't visit so often and not online.
This internet thing is amazing! Letting people use it: worst idea ever!
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Thanks - I've lots of version available form an MSDN subscription I had.
I really look back to the days of QuickC - life was good.
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