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I often regret that we moved to TFS but saving that big $7 a month over GitHub was, strangely, enough to keep me there.
I think I can pony up $7 a month not to be locked out of my own code. Which is such a ridiculous statement to have to make.
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Chris Maunder
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Last of the big spenders, you! 
No, that's stupid - TFS is run by people who are supposed to be "Cloud aware", and who certainly should know exactly what you - and I, and all 13, 718, 609 other members - want, need, and expect of a source control system. And they can't keep it up*? Not a good reflection on Azure really, considering how they see TFS as a stepping stone to Azure DevOps.
* Fnnr, fnnr - added to keep MM amused.
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OriginalGriff wrote: and all 13, 718, 609 other members - want, need, and expect of a source control system.
Well, as 7.289368769093135e-8 of that, that's why I use GitHub. 
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I too.
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That is until Microsoft integrate it into their systems more
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Only seven dollars a month to get an occasional day off? Where do I sign up?
(We're using TFS and not having trouble. --Yet-- We're being forced to move to a centralized enterprise TFS, then all heck will break out I'm sure.)
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How much are you actually saving? Are you paying for license to host your own server? Are you paying for Microsoft to provide you TFS? Either of those options seem like they would cost more than $7/mo (particularly licensing TFS, which I just looked up, ranging between $45 to $250 / month, but you can never a straight answer from Microsoft on how much something costs, given the options listed just on that page.
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The fact that it was down for us for the second day in a row has already negated a years worth of ‘savings’
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Chris Maunder
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Did you get the "no privilege" error? If so, did a simple re-connect fix the issue? I experienced a couple of hiccups yesterday, but nothing that prevented me from continuing to work.
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It was the full "Service is down" page.
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Chris Maunder
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Just wait for some politically active 22 year old who decides s/he doesn't like your politics so s/he shuts you down or deletes your data.
Cloud hosting is a nice idea. That's it, just a nice idea.
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And didn't Microsoft buy GitHub ??? 
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Regrettably, yes ...
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So, stop relying on centralized services.
Git works decentralized.
We're using Mercurial at my job, it's filebased, if you want it centralized you just put a repo on the fileserver and access it via VPN if needed.
But you don't even need a server, just start the builtin webserver.
Or in worst case, put the repo on a memorystick and pass it around. Not that I recommend it, mind you.
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Chris Maunder wrote: I think I can pony up $7 a month not to be locked out of my own code.
I've always called this situation "companies taking your data hostage" and this really makes it seem true.
Well, we may as well laugh, because if it isn't funny, it's quite bad. 
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I'm sure we work in vastly different ways. I've been able to use TFS's offline mode for a few days in the past, and when going back online, it just "did the right thing" on its own to reconsolidate everything it had detected had been changed since.
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The issue for us is Matthew and I are both make some extensive changes to the code in tandem and so we are constantly checking in and syncing our changes to ensure everything's dovetailing nicely. Something like this is a bit of a buzz kill because now our changes build up as commits and then when it comes back online the chances of conflicts (or worse: one of us going down the wrong path) is higher.
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Chris Maunder
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I think the real issue is being centralized. If Bitbucket ever went down for a few days, my coworkers and I could push back and forth to each others repos to keep in sync with each other as needed. (Or someone who enjoys the ops part of devops, could set up a temporary shared remote for us all to work off of until things got fixed.)
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You can always have your own TFS server.
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And y'all still dig the cloud huh.
Ok.
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We use our own local Gitea GIT server now, but I still have fond memories of my Visual Sourcesafe days 
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Odd that there's no mention of it on their Twitter feed, but the blog suggests[^] it's all better as of 19:46 UTC. 
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Strange. I have never faced any down-time with TFS after these many years use. Been an user of it, ever since TFS-online was released. Or it could be just a coincidence. That they go down at middle of the night and patch up & get going before we wake up.
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7-Zip, One Drive and client folders; no issues for over 5 years ... and $0 per month.
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Was the spade a groundbreaking invention?
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