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I knew it had to be a hardware issue. Software engineers don't make errors.
/ravi
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Rumors, rumors, rumors...
Some non-techie people I was with yesterday are convinced it was a terrorist incident. 
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There you go, if they had just fired more I.T. staff then this wouldn't have happened.
(management really thinks like this)
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So ... BA are saying "we are incompetent" not only to design a mission critical system that can cope with a single point of failure, but also too incompetent to include backups for mission critical systems, but worse: they design systems that once switched off take 24 hours to find the switch and flip it back down to "ON"?
I smell bad media reporting, and / or scapegoat detection with accompanying "deflect the blame from me!" subsystems.
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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I worked as a vendor supplying system monitoring software to another airline (in the US). They had a problem that meant they kept calling me at 3 am to come and fix a problem where everything kept resetting randomly between 2 and 3 in the morning! It turned out that a cleaner was unplugging a key power unit to plug in their vacuum cleaner. When done, he would plug it back in, so by the time I got there everything had just reset for no apparent reason. Ended up going early and staying all night to watch it... We found the culprit on the second night, and whom we strung up and disemboweled (in my mind). They wouldn't spring for UPS's for our monitoring PC's until then. Then they did and we had no further problems!
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
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I wish I had a £ for every time I heard that old chestnut. Anyone who knows anything about large systems knows that this is just not possible. I worked in Turkey in the 70s (think the US in the 40s) and even there the power system was impossible to disrupt in this way.
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I assure you that this happened. I was there and attended multiple times at around 3 am. Not something I would forget. The power unit supplied power for a couple of PCs acting as "rule-servers" for several other networked PCs acting as Operator's consoles for the mainframe systems using custom-written (by my team, but mostly me) IBM 3270 terminal emulation software. The mainframe systems were not in the slightest way interrupted by this, just the servers that provided rules, etc. for background software running on these consoles. When they were powered off the consoles would carry on for a while until a message arrived that needed certain actions. The "rule-servers" would be down and the consoles would stop working properly - I would be paged. On several occasions the plug would be put back in before a key message would arrived at any console, the rule servers would start up again and no-one would know anything had gone wrong unless they searched the logs. This is why it appeared random even though the cleaner did this every weekday night!
No old chestnuts were involved or harmed during these events.
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
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Reminds me of First Bus HQ worked there for five mins as a student, they run international systems, a regional bus service appeared to beyond there means...
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Here's[^] an actual photo from inside BA headquarters.
"the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment
"Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst
"I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle
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Quote: Are they still running an old Amdahl?
No. They have not yet progressed to such high tech!
Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!
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I has one of them idiots lean on the master/transfer panel at the UPS system, killing all of our server racks. Happened to be the best of the 3 partners who owned the company
Director of Transmogrification Services
Shinobi of Query Language
Master of Yoda Conditional
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Kent Sharkey wrote: Not the guy that designed their computer system with a single power switch
Nah, I'll bet that guy actually wanted redundancy, but management wouldn't hear it because of costs.
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They would have found the problem sooner if someone had tried the Traditional Fix of turning it off and back on again.
Assuming they noticed the actual state, and didn't wind up turning it on and then off again. 
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Ubuntu was up and running in about 20 minutes, including finding out how to set up my internet connection and some other settings. It's only temporary for now, since my harddisk is still failing, but now I can try some things out.
Best thing up to now: No company that wants to marry me, my registration, a blood sample and a license agreement signed with the same blood. So that's what it feels like to walk out of Egypt. 
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a f***ing golf cart.
"I don't know, extraterrestrial?"
"You mean like from space?"
"No, from Canada."
If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.
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Yep. I hear this same message from people almost daily now. Welcome to the real world, Neo.
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and wander around looking for /usr/home for 40 years.
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I must have a lot to atone for if I'm punished like that.
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a f***ing golf cart.
"I don't know, extraterrestrial?"
"You mean like from space?"
"No, from Canada."
If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.
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Report back in 2 weeks. 
There are two kinds of people in the world: those who can extrapolate from incomplete data.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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Hope dies last, huh? When I look around, I see more than 20 computers and only three of them ever were meant to be contaminated with Mickeysoft. The sort of Muggle you hope that I am already ditched Mickeysoft years ago and runs around with a telephone in the face. When the Muggles are already running away, how do you think they can persuade someone who knows what he's doing?
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a f***ing golf cart.
"I don't know, extraterrestrial?"
"You mean like from space?"
"No, from Canada."
If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.
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Don't go thinking Ubuntu is so pure. Remember that they were forced a few years ago to backtrack on their plans to send all your search results to Amazon.
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Sure, but they will not come and secretly install that stuff as an 'important update', wether I agree or not. Or will they secretly change some settings, just because they know far better than I what I need? I did not even have to join some phony book club and 'register' or 'activate' anything.
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a f***ing golf cart.
"I don't know, extraterrestrial?"
"You mean like from space?"
"No, from Canada."
If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.
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Hi All,
Well that's news, didn't want it, need it, but I had to have it. Apart from making Edge/Shelf/What ever the IE's replacment is called my default browser and trying to make me use One Drive I can't see what else has broken? Any body know if in for a supprise? 
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I've been using CU since it became available, with all subsequent updates. I have no issues to report, except that I think I sometimes notice an almost imperceptible latency when I click on some shortcuts, especially in Edge. But it so brief I am not sure it really happens. 
Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!
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