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Quote: Face down, nine-edge first.
Wonder how many of today's devs know what that means without looking it up?
(I remember it well).
If you can keep your head while those about you are losing theirs, perhaps you don't understand the situation.
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In my first year in University, we still had to program using punched cards. The next year, they installed these new-fangled terminals. We still ran everything on the mainframe, though.
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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Well, it ain't too bad, could have been a BSoD! 
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I have been messing around with the style settings of IntelliJ IDEA. Making different class instances different colors, the same with other types and operators against a high contrast black background. (Yes! I know the people who wrote the Microsoft guidelines for the styling of productivity apps will be horrified, but elephant them!  )
So She came up behind me and looked at my monitor over my shoulder. "Those are pretty pictures!" She said.
In my lifetime I have had my code called different things, but 'Pretty Pictures' is a new one! 
Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!
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The marketing department will be so proud.
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Heck yeah! I always twiddle with the color scheme until I get something I like.
My editor background is ebffdd, it's a nice pale green easy on the eyes. Got it from HumptyDumpty magazine from when I was a child 50 years ago. Every issue explained why the paper was a pale green.
I can't do the dark mode stuff.
I’ve given up trying to be calm. However, I am open to feeling slightly less agitated.
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I was just signing up for (YAOA) Yet Another Online Account -- Microchip.com.
When I attempted to add my shortened (only 32 chars pwd -- Usually use 64) I got the following:
https://i.stack.imgur.com/D0mFy.png[^]
Think About This
If the password is hashed, it doesn't matter how many characters the password is, because they are storing the hash!!!
This absolutely proves that whoever created this web site login have no understanding of anything that is related to create a web site login. 
That is my rant. Thank you for participating.
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You really don't spend enough time in QA.
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Quite right. I avoid QA so as not to lose what remains of my hair and my sanity. 
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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Ahhh but you see that's not its only purpose.
I suppose if I visited that section in a different mind-set I'd be disappointed and frustrated.
The experience I have is in fact, the opposite.
Perhaps that's because I consider it the go-to place for comedy. (It always delivers)
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Are you implying that Richard is bald and nuts?  
M.D.V. 
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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Nelek wrote: Are you implying that Richard is bald and nuts?
Definitely the first, and probably the second.
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No; I'm stating that I am.
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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They are probably not hashing the password.
I had a similar experience not long ago where, not only were they not hashing the password but, on signup, they sent me the password in clear text to my email (and every month since) and, they published my email on their website feed celebrating the fact that they had one more costumer.
I complained about all that and they told me that they stored the passwords in clear text so that they could better help costumers having trouble signing in.
When I then asked them to erase my account they told me they couldn't because it would break their system since it was not prepared to remove accounts. So much for the right to forget.
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ElectronProgrammer wrote: they couldn't because it would break their system
At which point you should offer your services to redo their website (spit) to conform to legal requirements, at a reasonably inflated price of course.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity -
RAH
I'm old. I know stuff - JSOP
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Unfortunately I do not know web programming (only some basic HTML 2.0 without CSS).
But I would be able to redo implement their database with proper password hashing .
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The only tool you need is a sledge hammer to adjust their servers with. No webby code crap needed.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
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ElectronProgrammer wrote: When I then asked them to erase my account they told me they couldn't because it would break their system since it was not prepared to remove accounts.
That's the typical moment where a "you'll soon hear from my lawyer" (even when it might be a lie) is pretty handy.
M.D.V.
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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They probably don't sanitize their database inputs either, so... obligatory xkcd: Exploits of a Mom
(Doing this probably breaks the law. Kids, don't try this at home!)
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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Far and away my favourite of the series.
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Oh, Intel do this too, so I am sure it is alright. Right?
They also store previous passwords so you can not re-use them. Useful... not!
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Why would one need plain text for that?.. 
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Mark Tumilty wrote: They also store previous passwords so you can not re-use them.
It's crazy. And just today I got an email from google on one of my "subscription account emails -- used for dumping ground" that said,
Google said:
"Google found some of your passwords online. Anyone who finds them can access your accounts.
Your Google Account is still secure. This leak came from somewhere else on the web, and you can secure your saved passwords now using Password Manager."
How do they know my password? If they know it, why don't they tell me the pwd so I can know which one they are talking about. It's crazy.
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Google can take the password displayed online and test it against your account.
They do not need to know it.
Login to google from your own link and change it.
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englebart wrote: Google can take the password displayed online and test it against your account.
I really had to think about what you meant.
You mean they hash the one they found online and then test it against the hash that they stored for my password. Hmmm...Interesting.
thanks for making me think that through more clearly.
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