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Mike Winiberg wrote: some are/were trojans, like Brave,
What? Can you explain, I'm using it on both phone and PC and if it's untrustworthy...
GCS d--(d-) s-/++ a C++++ U+++ P- L+@ E-- W++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
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Ok I knew about those, for me it's not an issue. I don't care about bitcoins, I don't click on ads. On Android it's easy on the battery and data consumption, on PC it helps masking site ads without triggering the AdBlock revealers on the target sites.
It's also quite easy on the RAM, though I prefer Firefox I didn't install it on my newest PC for now - FF has some nifty plugins though.
GCS d--(d-) s-/++ a C++++ U+++ P- L+@ E-- W++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
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I use vivaldi for almost a year now and I'm very happy with it. Has some nice features and doesn't take too much resources, even with a lot of tabs.
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I developed a PHP web page that helps me track the time I spend on projects and bill it to my customers.
Using that web page on Edge was super slow (at least 2 seconds waiting after each click), using Vivaldi was super fast.
That made me have it installed to use my web page.
This said, some months ago, an Edge update made that browser as fast as Vivladi with my page, so I uninstalled it and now I use only Edge.
It did what it was supposed to do and faster than what I used as my daily driver, but now it has no sense for me.
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Use it for ages, since it's Chromium inside it doesn't have compatibility problems like Firefox, feels faster and sleeker than Chrome and adds a lot of nice features on top. The only con I know for now is that Google is trying to ban other browsers than Chrome itself from it's sync service[^] so if you really need that it may be a no go for you
Banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies. T.Jefferson
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Been using it for years, it's created by the people who developed Opera back when it was an independently maintained browser back before they got sold to a Chinese company and were all unceremoniously sacked while the new corporate overlord was busy slapping an red O icon onto Chromium. Vivaldi on contrast is Opera's spiritual successor and has a lot of the customization features that made old Opera unique.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
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Well, it’s not a new browser, but perhaps new to you. 
I loaded it several years ago (6+?). It didn’t use standard hot keys, and I saw no earth-shattering advantages, so unloaded it and never looked back.
Good luck, though. I didn’t see anything wrong with it then; I saw it mentioned in a recent article, so I guess there’ll be some renewed interest in Vivaldi.
Time is the differentiation of eternity devised by man to measure the passage of human events.
- Manly P. Hall
Mark
Just another cog in the wheel
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I used brave for about 2 years, before getting some crash issues.
on their built in featuers:
Built in mail client - why, sounds like an Microsoft IE idea
Chrome does not have custom search engine - what, am i missing something, chrome allows to add differnt search engines
Tab Grouping - chrome shoving it down my throht on android, I hate it (more likly not used to it, and made as a default instead of option, and getting previous "open in new tab" is a hack)
Macros - because chrome and firefox dont have add on system allowing some every far reaching modifications
Does not track you behaviour - you know how Apple says roughly ""we do not allow 3rd party tracking"", yeah that says Apple tracks you, but they don't share the data. But them tracking allows at LEAST them to be able to improve the product based on actually measured metrics instead of what people say they do.
This browser saying no tracking, is either purposefully misleading, ignorantly misleading, or they have zero logging (tracking) to be able to improve the product for the benefit of users or resolving issues which is not usefully
Notes Manager - ok this is a must have now 
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I'm using it now as I type and all the other time. This is my favourite.
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Been using it for the last six months and it seems perfectly fine. I was able to install all the extensions I normally use and it's very configurable. Went to Vivaldi because Firefox was having some problems, it locked up computer when there was a streaming problem.
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I've never used it, but I am all in favor of having options available to break free of the "top three".
I personally use Pale Moon. It was originally a Mozilla fork, but now has its own rendering engine. Only a small number of sites using deficient browser detection don't work with it.
Money makes the world go round ... but documentation moves the money.
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been using this for 4 years. Solid and fast. had some really nice features that others copy-paste. Still some features others don't have yet.
Behzad
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I have a berry bush with green leaves, which are edible.
but bugs are eating these leaves badly and I need to find a safe way to remove or drive away these bugs.
any suggestions? I need these leaves intact because they are nutritious...
diligent hands rule....
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Aren't the bug nutritious as well?
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Meat group.
"They have a consciousness, they have a life, they have a soul! Damn you! Let the rabbits wear glasses! Save our brothers! Can I get an amen?"
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Soapy water?
"the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment
"Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst
"I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle
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what kind of soap?
diligent hands rule....
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Something like cheap dish washing liquid.
"the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment
"Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst
"I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle
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Have you tried a flame thrower?
But then, I'm no gardener. It's possible it might damage the bush slightly.
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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you remind me of a kind of smoking blower, which may be useful.
but not sure what kind of smoke I should use...
diligent hands rule....
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Set a breakpoint and try debugging it 
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It sounds like they're already at their breakpoint, just asking for advice on the debugging part.
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maybe ladybugs. depending on where you live. not sure you can get them.
Real programmers use butterflies
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