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I see what you did there! 
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"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
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See my reply to meatballs
"Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well-preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming “Wow! What a Ride!" - Hunter S Thompson - RIP
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Discuss
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"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
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Correct except direction was just N turning was the anagram indicator and T was the junction YAUT
"Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well-preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming “Wow! What a Ride!" - Hunter S Thompson - RIP
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Does anyone actually like creating screens/user interfaces?
I wish I had someone to delegate this to. I wrote some fantastic supporting code to make all the screens look pretty, with an easy(ish) to use API (given its complexity and large featureset) - that doesn't mean I want to have to use it myself! 
It's a slog, making screens. Just rote code and very little problem solving or creativity.
It's times like this that make me eager to move on to my next project.
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But can it do IoT? =)
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UWP works on RaspberryPi! I mean might depend on OS installed.. but last year I was working, amongst other thing, on a UWP UI on a solar inverter! 
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A raspberry pi will run linux and mono.
I'm not at all surprised it runs UWP.
It's not an IoT device. It's a low end computer in a small form factor.
As soon as you connect it to batteries, that point will be driven home.
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It's drudgery for sure. Gotta do it though.
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I built my own JSON based UI manager that can handle all my UI elements plus wrap any other control, and then built a graphical form designer for it. Form editor allows me to draw and then drop back to JSON when I need to. Problem solved. It’s a dream to use 
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Yeah, I can't really do that in 300kB of primary ram and 4MB of 80mhz secondary ram on a CPU @ 240mhz attached at 20mhz to an 800x480 display. There's very little room for any niceties. I do support True Type on it though.
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Reminds me when I worked on a WYSIWYG emulator app for HP LaserJet printers. This was back in the old DOS days (the original IBM PCs had just came out a few years earlier) and was written in assembler as a .COM app. I developed the user interface similar to Lotus-123. Was actually fun and something I still remember with a bit of pride...
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About 40 years ago I wrote a full screen text editor with word wrapping that ran in 8kb of RAM (about 7K of code and 1k of data) and could handle editing large files by windowing through them (it used a second temp file to manage the data it couldn't keep in memory, with a stack algorithm to keep it fast). Oh, and it was all hand coded assembly (I also wrote one in BASIC to run on the same hardware, but it was more restrictive and had to page code in and out).
It should be 'easy' to write a dynamic screen layout system in 300k, as long as you apply appropriate restrictions (e.g., no 1MB GIFs)
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A simple layout engine i could do given the time.
This isn't really about that though. See the rest of the thread.
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Never worked on GUIs but figured it would be as you described.
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Same here. Spent 40+ years as an embedded engineer and the only project that had a UI (built in web server) was cancelled before it was finished. The web UI part of the project was being handled by another engineer.
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I've enjoyed making UI in WinForms, WPF, UWP, and Ios over the years. MFC, Android, and HTML OTOH are ![Elephant | [mastadon]](https://codeproject.global.ssl.fastly.net/script/Forums/Images/elephant.gif) ing hell.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
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It can be a grind, but I'm actually enjoying Angular at the moment. There are plenty of interesting and challenging parts. Typescript, CSS, etc.
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Yeah, I like the idea of typescript but I can't make heads or tails of angular and similar frameworks, with all their "routing" and stuff. It confuses me.
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Angular does have a lot of set up, but it's not too bad once you get the hang of it.
The lexical parsing and other things you do hurt my brain...
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I swear that stuff only looks difficult because I'm the one teaching it. If it was truly difficult, I wouldn't be able to make anything of it either.
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I think some brains are just wired in a way that they can make sense of certain things (math, parsers, etc.) easier than others can
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and others can understand Angular.
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You must not be using MVVM. If you were, a visual designer would show up to do the visuals for you.
It was only in wine that he laid down no limit for himself, but he did not allow himself to be confused by it.
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