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Just finished breakfast, almost lost it...
Mongo: Mongo only pawn... in game of life.
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Initially, when I started using Xamarin Form, it seemed "awesome", with Xaml and multiplatform feature.
As time goes, and our app designer get more demanding (and the time get more restraint), I have to downgrade Xamarin Form to... "Has potential"
Plenty of little niggly issues... which make me lose so much time, just to get the right padding, or get a control on the nav bar, or occasional Navigation issue.... 
modified 13-Jul-16 0:45am.
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I like the concept of Xamarin.Forms and see where I will probably use it in a couple of versions time. Right now, however, I will stick to Xamarin.Android and Xamarin.IOS to produce the relevant applications. The beauty is, of course, that you can still accomplish a lot with a shared back end and then just concentrate on the UI with the relevant platform specific part.
This space for rent
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Well Peter.. I never was where you are now.. Started directly with XForm!
And learning about Android / iOS on the way right now, as one can't escape the native platform, even with XForms!
The great thing about XForm is XAML, Binding, DataTemplate, etc ... all those things we love from WPF! 
(and hey, a Button is a Button, be it on Android or iOS!)
But being proficient with the platform is still quite relevant... (at least for quality apps) so you are still using your time well! 
But giving it a go at home... Now that it is free... you might be pleasantly surprised! 
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I've tried Xamarin Forms. I just don't feel it's quite there yet - it's like Silverlight 2 was, plenty of potential but not quite ready for the mainstream. The biggest problem I have is that the Layout system is still too heavyweight. if you want to add child containers, and then remove them, you're going to trigger lots of layout passes - and event bubbling goes well beyond the scope it needs to. It will get there, but there are some niggles that just need to be sorted.
This space for rent
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Let's see:
My project is being taken away from me and rewritten in Python by a couple kids.
Windows 8 delayed a demo by doing >100 updates, then trashing the PC.
I accidentally installed the wrong Ingenico drivers, not realizing that I had two different versions on my computer, and I uploaded the older one to the demo box.
The demo was scheduled before we even tested the system.
The Ingenico pinpad went into "tamper" mode, and refused to accept card swipes.
In the meantime, one of the kids is asking me to update the receipt printer so it also prints a customer copy, for his hot off the press (actually, still on the press) demo, which just so happens to be a competing product to the one I'm developing (don't ask how that happens.)
But at the very last hour, we got a PC working, the right Ingenico drivers, a working Ingenico, and voila, the software, pinpad, ESeek ID scanner, and thermal printer all did the right thing in front of the CEO.
So now my mood is more back to neutral.
I'm really looking forward to next week. The CTO that "manages" all this, basically an ADHD personality that is either usually sleep deprived or seems to be on crack, and has no concept of how to manage a project, is going on vacation for a couple weeks. ![Jig | [Dance]](https://codeproject.freetls.fastly.net/script/Forums/Images/jig.gif)
It's a paycheck, but that's about it. Which rubs me the wrong way, because my work ethic is such that I want to be interested, involved, and above all, happy, to do the work. I've done pro bono work and felt much more "job satisfaction."
Marc
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Rewritten in python?
Was it some sort of web thing?
I really dunno what's all the hype about python! 
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Super Lloyd wrote: Was it some sort of web thing?
No, it's a hardware abstraction layer that has to talk to USB/COM devices (each with their nuances, async responses, vendor specific communication protocols, etc), handle input from keyboard wedge devices, and for one machine, communication is via a TCP/IP server that the HAL has to provide!
Marc
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I've worked with such (& Ingenico) - I'm pretty sure I would have to be given a full frontal lobotomy before I thought doing a HAL for that in Python made any sort of sense - good luck to the 'kids' when it gets load tested and/or moves into production and 'breaks'
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Yeah, i wrote each device as a service that gets loaded based on the system configuration, a publisher /subscriber for intercommunication, full logging of events and errors, full async / multithreading capability, etc. We'll see what the kids create.
Marc
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And people want to write that in python?
And, I guess, reduce cost on the lowest layer of other application?
Wouldn't that create later problems?!  
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Super Lloyd wrote: Wouldn't that create later problems?!
The problems (yes, plural) were created the minute someone decided Python was the way to go to produce a HAL. It will just be realised at a later time. 
"Real men drive manual transmission" - Rajesh.
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Rajesh R Subramanian wrote: It will just be realised at a later time
I'm pretty sure there is at least someone who realises there is a problem, and will probably gloat here when it goes tits up, I look forward to that post.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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Mycroft Holmes wrote: I'm pretty sure there is at least someone who realises there is a problem, and will probably gloat here when it goes tits up, I look forward to that post.
MEMEMEMEMEME! If I'm still around at this company, I'll be the one to write it! ![Jig | [Dance]](https://codeproject.global.ssl.fastly.net/script/Forums/Images/jig.gif)
Marc
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Is this fun or what.
So glad my CEO is my fighter pilot partner and wife.
I don't get paychecks thigh.
I just have to beg for stuff.
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Ron Anders wrote: I don't get paychecks thigh.
I'm voting for that as Freudian slip of the month.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Crap.
For your sake I'll not fix it.
Darn it - Stupid fingers and brain.
I'll see my way out........
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Usually I move on to greener pastures when I have managers like that  .
They tend to break more than they fix.
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V. wrote: Usually I move on to greener pastures when I have managers like that
The fact that I work 3000 miles away, remotely, helps to mitigate the issues. If I worked there, my greener pasture would probably be a cell, either padded, or barred, or both!
Marc
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Can I come to visit for some relaxation? 
Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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So, what happens if the power goes out? Does it brick W8/10?
Marc
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There's always hope.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Your UPS kicks in and saves the day ... doesn't it?
I am not a number. I am a ... no, wait!
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That's actually an interesting point.
I have a UPS at home (not that I'm ever there), but, considering that you might never need them (their usefulness relies on the power failing when you've spent a lot of time doing stuff without saving), they're quite expensive (Very expensive, compared to hitting Ctrl+S, which doesn't cost too many pennies).
How many other members are so paranoid as this sucker here?
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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