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Ian Shlasko31-Jul-15 5:04

Ian Shlasko

31-Jul-15 5:04

Because my 8.1 laptop, which is the only one I'm upgrading right away (I rely too much on my Win7 desktop to be an OS alpha tester - I'll give it a month or two), hasn't given me the option yet Sigh | :sigh:

(And I'm too lazy to download it manually)

That said... Looking forward to Win10... Sounds like this is the next in the Win311/Win98/WinXP/Win7 series, not the 95/Me/Vista/Win8 series.

Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)

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Mladen Janković31-Jul-15 5:15

Mladen Janković

31-Jul-15 5:15

Ian Shlasko wrote:
Sounds like this is the next in the Win311/Win98/WinXP/Win7 series, not the 95/Me/Vista/Win8 series.

It's Microsoft's version of Tick-Tock model[^].

Rob Grainger31-Jul-15 5:11

Rob Grainger

31-Jul-15 5:11

Haven't you realised that developers are a reactionary bunch.

Hell, a lot of them still think a command-line is the pinnacle of user interfaces.

"If you don't fail at least 90 percent of the time, you're not aiming high enough."
Alan Kay.

OriginalGriff31-Jul-15 5:18

OriginalGriff

31-Jul-15 5:18

Obligatory Dilbert[^]

Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

CDP180231-Jul-15 5:13

CDP1802

31-Jul-15 5:13

Why not? It's already installed and does its job.

The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here

This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a f***ing golf cart.

"I don't know, extraterrestrial?"
"You mean like from space?"
"No, from Canada."

If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.

Rob Grainger31-Jul-15 5:16

Rob Grainger

31-Jul-15 5:16

I expect you'll be learning COBOL next then.

"If you don't fail at least 90 percent of the time, you're not aiming high enough."
Alan Kay.

CDP180231-Jul-15 7:55

CDP1802

31-Jul-15 7:55

What for? I still enjoy writing machine code and enter it with a kex keypad. Much more effective than affectionately stroking a smearscreen all day Smile | :)

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Mladen Janković31-Jul-15 9:06

Mladen Janković

31-Jul-15 9:06

CDP1802 wrote:
still enjoy writing machine code and enter it with a kex keypad.

Machine code? Hex keypad? LOL! NOOB! This is how I roll[^].

CDP180231-Jul-15 9:14

CDP1802

31-Jul-15 9:14

Yes, of course. You have taken that picture in your basement just now. Must I really make a snapshot of my old computer? Smile | :)

Kevin Marois31-Jul-15 5:19

31-Jul-15 5:19

Because it works.

If it's not broken, don't fix it

If it's not broken, fix it until it is

Eddy Vluggen31-Jul-15 5:54

Eddy Vluggen

31-Jul-15 5:54

Mladen Janković wrote:
What's so fascinating about it???

Windows? Well, it was one of the first API's that allowed a developer with limited knowledge to create a uniform looking UI; one that is predictable, where things have a predictable working, and once you know the UI, you pretty much can access any application using that UI without resorting to manuals or expensive training. It had even special provisions for accessibility, so, in short, Windows was great.

One of the main development ideas during the design of various Windows versions was that the user/the owner was completely in charge. It means I was in charge of my machine.

Windows was great. And seven is the last serious version that I have seen Smile | :)

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Ron Anders31-Jul-15 6:44

Ron Anders

31-Jul-15 6:44

I for one am ~~afraid~~ convinced that MS is going to turn windows 10 into a dumb terminal for cloud based pay as you go windows via mandatory automatic F$%Kdates. Sol.exe is now subscription based and all they have to do is do the same to explorer.exe or worse as voila you no longer have the power and autonomy we received when we first booted MSDOS 1.1. A:>\MINE

The cloud is evil.
C: drives with your own stuff and you own backups are freedom.

That's why I stay on 7. (The number of completion btw Wink | ;-)

)

Last night I was mixing on my Windows 7 DAW, listening to playback.
It's a big bitchin multitrack tape recorder for all intent and purposes. It came to me that I want this "tape recorder" to be the same from one day to the next and I don't give a flip what OS it is running so long as I can pick up where I left off yesterday. I do my own image backups with paranoid regularity because hard drives die.

There is NO WAY I'm going to let MS dictate what I do and when I do it just because they're a old and frightened animal who is getting their clock cleaned now and used to be the king of the forest. (No AD pun intended).

They GAVE you Windows 10.

Be very afraid.

90823651-Aug-15 11:04

9082365

1-Aug-15 11:04

It's not fascinating. The very opposite in fact. That's what's so good about it. An OS should essentially be invisible. You don't question the make of bus that you catch; you simply ride it to your destination. The same is true of W7. It does everything I need it to do without being in my face and needy.

I am trying W10 out in a VM and so far I've found a few things I don't like about it (I hate the look with those modern icons - they're just so fricking dull!) but nothing that says I'm missing out badly enough to warrant devoting a couple of hours to changing over when I've far better things I can be doing with my machine.

Windows 10 - Why ??

Kevin Marois31-Jul-15 4:14

31-Jul-15 4:14

It seems like everyone is rushing to get Windows 10 downloaded and installed.

???

WHY???

I'm still on Windows 7, it works, it's stable, all the PC's at my company, including 20 devs, all still use 7... NO ONE that I know really wants Win 10..

I don't get it... What's so fascinating about it???

If it's not broken, fix it until it is

Maximilien31-Jul-15 4:24

Maximilien

31-Jul-15 4:24

Why?
Why not!

work computers != home computers != virtual machines.

I will upgrade my home computer as soon as it is available for me (haven't been notified yet) because I AM A GEEK/NERD and love cutting edge stuff; and my home PC is a gaming computer and there nothing really valuable on it.

I'd like to upgrade my work computer as well because we need a real computer with the latest Windows OS to build and run our application (outside of testing).

I don't really care about virtual machines, but if I could have one running Win10, then I would be happy too.

I'd rather be phishing!

Jeremy Falcon31-Jul-15 4:24

31-Jul-15 4:24

Kevin Marois wrote:
I'm still on Windows 7

In a few years, that's gonna be the next XP. I can't speak for everyone, and I'm in no rush. But, change is good. It keeps things fresh and new instead of old and stale.

Jeremy Falcon

Kevin Marois31-Jul-15 5:18

31-Jul-15 5:18

If it's not broken, don't fix it

If it's not broken, fix it until it is

Jeremy Falcon31-Jul-15 5:24

31-Jul-15 5:24

I get what you're saying, there just comes a point where you want something new. I'd not want to be the person still using Win 3.1 and WordPerfect just because it does all I'll ever need. It's a trade off.

Jeremy Falcon

Kevin Marois31-Jul-15 5:25

31-Jul-15 5:25

And I get what you're saying... But I don't want to be (and can't afford to be) they guy who's world is a mess because I have to install every new and shiny tool toy that comes out.

Stability is the key.

If it's not broken, fix it until it is

Jeremy Falcon31-Jul-15 5:47

31-Jul-15 5:47

Oh I get that, that's why I'm in no rush. I'm content with 8.1 for now. To me "no start menu" was never a valid reason not to upgrade away from 7.

Jeremy Falcon

Kevin Marois31-Jul-15 6:01

31-Jul-15 6:01

I didn't like the fact that they removed the Start button, I mean Why??? Why would you remove such a critical piece of the UI??

But what it really showed me what how far out of touch MS is from their users. If they can remove the Start Button with nary a thought, what's next?? It's scary.

Then, Wino 10 comes along and, to me, it's not much different than 8. So I see no reason (again) to downgrade.

If it's not broken, fix it until it is

Jeremy Falcon31-Jul-15 6:40

31-Jul-15 6:40

Kevin Marois wrote:
It's scary.

It's a button on an electronic computer screen. Having to rethink how you access programs is not scary. Having someone raid your house in the middle of the night with a shotgun is. Might wanna keep that in perspective.

Jeremy Falcon

Kevin Marois31-Jul-15 6:46

31-Jul-15 6:46

Untold millions rely on that little button every day. When the removed it, the panic meter worldwide went off the scale.

Again, the point isn't the button - it's the decision making process that allows a company with such great influence to remove something EVERYONE uses.

If it's not broken, fix it until it is

Jeremy Falcon31-Jul-15 6:52

31-Jul-15 6:52

It's a decision over a button. As in, big deal. Who cares? It was a decision over a button. Dunno about you, but I've got better things to do with my time than freak out about that.

Jeremy Falcon

Kevin Marois31-Jul-15 6:54