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Does anyone use Planning Poker[^] this in their day job?
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Chris Maunder
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Link fail.
What do you get when you cross a joke with a rhetorical question?
The metaphorical solid rear-end expulsions have impacted the metaphorical motorized bladed rotating air movement mechanism.
Do questions with multiple question marks annoy you???
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Fixed.
cheers
Chris Maunder
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Link is incomplete. Should be: Planning Poker [^].
And no, we are simple drones that do what we are tasked to do by the pasty faced overlords.
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We do. We don't have the elaborate card set; we just type the numbers into an IM window (most of us work remotely).
We play pretty fast-and-loose with the various scrum practices, though. During PP, if a user story comes up that's related to a page I've been working on for the past 3 sprints, then my poker number is the only one that shows up in the window.
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Tried it once, ended up drunk and naked holding a pair of Queens...wait, I may have misunderstood the question.
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Yeah - see, that's what I was afraid of.
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Chris Maunder
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In a more serious note, what I have done before that did work at the start of a project was a visualisation exercise "This project will have failed in 2 years time and we will be down a post-mortem. What will we be blaming"...it helped draw out some project risks we hadn't taken seriously enough yet.
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Some of us use the Scrum Poker app.
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I recommend the I Ching. Just today I asked it: "Should CodeProject upgrade its hardware before installing Windows 10 ?" [^]; the reply was Hexagram 18, "Ku," associated with "repairing the damage:"
"Winds sweep through the Mountain valley:
The Superior Person sweeps away corruption and stagnation by stirring up the people and strengthening their spirit.
Supreme success.
Before crossing to the far shore, consider the move for three days.
After crossing, devote three days of hard labor to damage control. What could be clearer than that, Chris ?
«I want to stay as close to the edge as I can without going over. Out on the edge you see all kinds of things you can't see from the center» Kurt Vonnegut.
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OK, I'm ditching the poker chips and grabbing some hex's
cheers
Chris Maunder
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We used to, but the last year or so, we've abandoned the scrum method for kanban. Don't miss the planning poker at all...
Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant
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I'd just like a chance to prove that money can't make me happy.
Me, all the time
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Yes
We use it reasonably informally (v small teams) but it works really well to get through estimations quickly - as ling as there's a scrum master to move things along when the devs start wanting to know 9,000,000 things about a tiny backlog item when they all agree anyway it's between a 2 and a 3.
PooperPig - Coming Soon
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Yes we are doing it during the sprint planning with days as unit. We are a team with 5 developers and it works fine. It is also good to enhance the quality of the bug/issue description. If we cannot estimate a bug, it means it is not good defined. If we estimate a bug for more than 5 days we understand we should split it, and so on.
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We did at my previous company - IMHO about as effective as the magic 8-ball.
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I've done it, but found the whole story point thing a mess. We ended up equating 1 point to 4 hours of work. But I always tried to call out 4 or 6 
Hogan
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I do, we use it every week (refining stories one week & planning the next)
As a Scrum Master it is useful in as much as it allows me to estimate the work my team can complete in a two week sprint.
Sometimes it works really well, other times we over/under estimate, but it all evens out. Using poker and making sure that the team have a refined backlog that covers one and a half to two sprints of work allows me to make sure the team are fully occupied.
The second part to the Poker is making sure you get your velocity right for the team (another estimation) as giving them too much work is demoralising and giving too little means you are re-planning too often.
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I used planning poker for a few months. I didn't find it offered much advantage over just talking about how long things would take. We never understood why some numbers were on cards, and others were not. It wasn't powers-of-two or fibonacci.
We were told not to equate numbers to days, but nobody could make estimates unless they did equate numbers to days. There was endless confusion and disagreement on whether it was or was not possible to consider tasks that took less than one day. Could you realistically schedule two half-day tasks in one day, or would unexpected add-ons prevent you ever succeeding at this?
The scrum master would beat us up if we estimated too high, so the estimates were always too low. We totalled up the number of engineer work days, and always scheduled this many days of projects, so we always ran over. We had sixty minute standups where the team watched the scrum master update TFS. We never looked back to compute our velocity. The team all knew we were scheduling too much work, but we weren't allowed to change the process.
We were agile in exactly the same way as a rhinocerous in ballet slippers.
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You need an up-goer that burns fire water apparently. Proof.[^]
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You really shouldn't goto space. You should break or return instead.
Funny how programming and rocket science are so similar, yet so different 
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Why I stopped contributing here.
I posted an alternative to a tip, and someone told me my code wasn't PCL compliant. I said I didn't care, and that he had the technology to do it if it was that important to him. My response was down-voted. Granted, it was a low-rep user that down-voted the response, but still, whoever it was is breathing oxygen that an otherwise real programmer could be using.
Simply.F*cking.Amazing.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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Ah, the old "bitch about it in The Lounge hoping that lots of people go and find the message and up-vote it to counter the down-vote" trick, eh. 
Down-vote countered. Happy now? 
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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No, I just wanted to rant. Like I said, it was a low-rep voter. I don't give a flyin' rat f*ck if anyone up-votes my sh|t ever again, but unreasonable down-votes piss me right the f*ck off.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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Don't hold back - tell us how you really feel!
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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