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Sascha Lefèvre4-Jan-16 2:36

Sascha Lefèvre

4-Jan-16 2:36

R. Giskard Reventlov wrote:
I have noticed that start up seems slower than Win7

Wasn't it supposed to be more "lightweight" than Win7? How's the perceived speediness once it has started up in comparison to Win7?

R. Giskard Reventlov wrote:
Happy new year to you all

Happy new year to you too!

If the brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn't. — Lyall Watson

dan!sh 4-Jan-16 2:39

dan!sh

4-Jan-16 2:39

R. Giskard Reventlov wrote:
I have noticed that start up seems slower than Win7 bit not really a big deal.

What does your start up look like? I mean I have minimal start up services and it works faster than W7 for same set up.

For edge, everything looks so small. I am currently at 125% zoom (it should be 25% zoom, right?). Same is with chrome too.

"You'd have to be a floating database guru clad in a white toga and ghandi level of sereneness to fix this goddamn clusterfuck.", BruceN[^]

Sander Rossel4-Jan-16 2:57

Sander Rossel

4-Jan-16 2:57

From what I understood

R. Giskard Reventlov wrote:
installed.

will soon become

R. Giskard Reventlov wrote:
installed.

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Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability.
— Edsger W. Dijkstra

Regards,
Sander

kmoorevs4-Jan-16 3:12

kmoorevs

4-Jan-16 3:12

About two weeks ago, I bought a new SSD for a 6 yo workstation and intended to stay with Win7. After putting a fresh copy of 7 on, it immediately asked for the upgrade to 10. I obliged, and now have 7 on the old drive and 10 on the new one. As far as I can tell, using the same license key on both works just fine and I can switch between the two with no problems...the best of both worlds! Smile | :)

"Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse

Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter4-Jan-16 3:21

4-Jan-16 3:21

Just do not tell it to Microsoft...

Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

Kevin Marois4-Jan-16 4:22

Kevin Marois

4-Jan-16 4:22

He just did

If it's not broken, fix it until it is

Cornelius Henning4-Jan-16 5:03

4-Jan-16 5:03

From my experience with installing 10, I have learnt the following:

When you upgrade from a legal copy of 7 or 8, the first time you run 10, the machine ID is reported to Microsoft and your 10 installation becomes activated. Your machine is now anointed by the Microsoft servers as eligible for 10. Now you can clean out your systems disk, recreate the partitions if you like, and do a completely clean install of 10. During installation you will be asked twice for the Activation Code. Just click on "Skip this step". When 10 is installed and run for the first time, it will connect to Microsoft and the installation will be activated without a code.

I have now done three machines in this manner and it works. But it essential that you upgrade first, before the clean install, or you will end up paying for an activation code!

How do we preserve the wisdom men will need,
when their violent passions are spent?
- The Lost Horizon

kmoorevs4-Jan-16 5:29

kmoorevs

4-Jan-16 5:29

My upgrade process was a little different than you describe:
0) plug up new drive and install Win 7 from DVD
1) activate the clean 7 installation
2) accept the upgrade offer and enjoy a 'clean' 10 installation

After the new OS was on, I still needed to copy content from the old Win7 disk. I am able to swap the drives and the old OS still functions perfectly as far as I can tell. I suppose one could easily set it up as a dual boot to make switching easier. To be honest, I haven't spent much time at all in the 'old' system lately...just enough to move a few things I forgot to an external drive. It's not reporting any errors, but whether or not it can receive updates remains to be seen. Smile | :)

"Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse

Richard Andrew x644-Jan-16 5:33

Richard Andrew x64

4-Jan-16 5:33

Cornelius Henning wrote:
But it essential that you upgrade first

That's not entirely true. The latest build, 10586, allows you to do a clean install using a Win 7 or Win 8 install key.

The difficult we do right away...
...the impossible takes slightly longer.

Cornelius Henning4-Jan-16 5:35

4-Jan-16 5:35

That is good to know! Thanks! Thumbs Up | :thumbsup:

How do we preserve the wisdom men will need,
when their violent passions are spent?
- The Lost Horizon

Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter4-Jan-16 6:15

4-Jan-16 6:15

Also there are computers that are listed at Microsoft by OEM and you can clean install W10 on them without any OS on them...

Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

Cornelius Henning4-Jan-16 6:39

4-Jan-16 6:39

How do you know whether a computer is listed as OEM? I suppose if you yourself installed 7 or 8 from an OEM disc, it's safe to assume it is listed as such, but if you purchased the computer from a retail source??

How do we preserve the wisdom men will need,
when their violent passions are spent?
- The Lost Horizon

Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter4-Jan-16 6:53

4-Jan-16 6:53

In my case it was an Asus notebook, that got an electric shock, that killed the HDD...So I replaced the HDD and asked Asus support how I can re-install the original OS, and they told that this computer can install W10, so I downloaded it to a DVD and installed...
So the only way I know is to ask the OEM support...

Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

Cornelius Henning4-Jan-16 7:27

4-Jan-16 7:27

I just noticed: In Control Panel -> System, you can see a "Product ID" code, that has the letters "OEM" at the end. That must indicate an OEM installation?

How do we preserve the wisdom men will need,
when their violent passions are spent?
- The Lost Horizon

Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter4-Jan-16 7:29

4-Jan-16 7:29

Yes, but that may not mean that the computer already listed at Microsoft...

Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

Cornelius Henning4-Jan-16 7:43

4-Jan-16 7:43

If the same windows shows "Activated", I am sure it will be listed.

How do we preserve the wisdom men will need,
when their violent passions are spent?
- The Lost Horizon

Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter4-Jan-16 7:48

4-Jan-16 7:48

If it is a legal OEM installation it must have a Windows OEM Label[^] somewhere (with HP is on the bottom of my wife's laptop and on Dell it is usually under the battery for instance)...You can use that number to install the latest W10 cleanly...

Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

ledtech34-Jan-16 4:24

ledtech3

4-Jan-16 4:24

Did you take a close look at all of the privacy settings ?
And the one that can have your system like a bit torrent? Getting and serving content.

R. Giskard Reventlov4-Jan-16 5:35

R. Giskard Reventlov

4-Jan-16 5:35

ledtech3 wrote:
Did you take a close look at all of the privacy settings

Hmm: probably not! I bypassed signing onto Microsloth so that should take care of quite a bi. What else is there?

Note it only appears slow at start up; once it winds up it's fine.

ledtech3 wrote:
And the one that can have your system like a bit torrent? Getting and serving content.

??? Ok: spill; that needs to get switched off!

So that's it. Christmas is over.

ledtech34-Jan-16 7:29

ledtech3

4-Jan-16 7:29

There are all sorts of settings that allow microsft to collect information on how you use Windows 10. I switched off almost everyone. Some can only be switched off if it is activated.

Allowing Microsoft to use your system for a peer to peer file server would not be a good idea in my mind. I switch that off too. Also it could be using your connection and slowing you down some.

I'm sure it is only a matter of time before somone leverages that to steal more info.

Ofcourse I'm just Parinoid after all of the malware research I've been doing lately.

OriginalGriff4-Jan-16 0:51

OriginalGriff

4-Jan-16 0:51

The decorations are down, the tree is packed away. The floor is hoovered, the extension leads coiled and hung on a hook in the cupboard.

I know, it's a day early - but it's bad enough trying to put away strings of shiny beads, tree lights, and card holders with the assistance of Dij The Cat without Herself getting involved. If I do it, then everything is neatly coiled and will unroll next year instantly ready for use. If She Who Must Be Correct is doing it, it'll be like the Garden Hose And the Bicycles In The Shed Incident all over again, and a Gordian Knot solution will be the only recourse.

So tell me, friends: am I too organised? Yes, I label cables at both ends, so I know what I'm unplugging. Yes, I have a "special drawer" just for batteries. Yes, I know where the Sellotape is to within an inch!
Don't you? Or are you the "chuck it in a box and run away" type?

Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

Rob Philpott4-Jan-16 0:57

Rob Philpott

4-Jan-16 0:57

This is good. Too much life is wasted trying to find things.

I've been doing quite a bit of DIY of late and have amassed a lot of new tools. I spend most of the time trying to find them. So, I have worked out exactly where each tool should live and strive to return it to the correct place when I'm finished with it. I have toolboxes and new shelves for all this.

It isn't working. Frown | :(

It seems my mind is so narrowly focused that I subconsciously put things down in the wrong places all the time with no recollection of where. It's very, very, frustrating.

I yearn for a more organised life.

Regards,
Rob Philpott.

Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter4-Jan-16 1:01

4-Jan-16 1:01

I have a "chuck it in a box and run away" type at home- she drive me crazy with that attitude...

Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

Sascha Lefèvre4-Jan-16 1:10

Sascha Lefèvre

4-Jan-16 1:10

Option #3 missing: Leave it all in place, next Christmas is coming soon..

If the brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn't. — Lyall Watson