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Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant
Anonymous
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The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine
Winston Churchill, 1944
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I'd just like a chance to prove that money can't make me happy.
Me, all the time
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obligatory xkcd[^]
I'd rather be phishing!
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Oh yes, I do. I don't hang out often. It is generally in phases whenever I am not too occupied.
"You'd have to be a floating database guru clad in a white toga and ghandi level of sereneness to fix this goddamn clusterfuck.", BruceN[ ^]
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Slacker007 wrote: Do you have a real job?
No; I don't even have a real life.
Why else would I do what I do on QA here ?
cheers, Bill
«Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn.» Benjamin Franklin
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Participating on Codeproject is skiving. To skive you need a real job. I don't visit this site on the weekends or when on holiday.
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PompeyThree wrote: To skive you need a real job.
I beg to differ. I think some here don't work at all, are retired, students, self-employed with very little work to do, etc.
Hard working people (debateable) with real elephanting jobs, can frequent this site, but can't put in the time necessary (i.e. like regulars in QA) with this site AND have a life AND do there job.
That is my opinion. I obviously don't know everyone's situation, but I bet I am more correct than wrong, on this. 
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i like answering some questions, because it refreshes and enhances my skills, but there are two problematic question types in the Q&A
- "Are you too stupid to Google it yourself?" (Johnny J)
- "plz make my homework" aka "hire-a-coder"
It would be fine, to get rid of these questions, but I know some of even these newbies need help. 
Press F1 for help or google it.
Greetings from Germany
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There is nothing wrong in asking help with basics as long the intent to learn has been demonstrated in the question. For instance,
I have to deliver project tomorrow. Tell me how to create a class. Urgent.
is BS. While, if a student asks that he knows the syntax to create a class from the book or whatever, but can't really figure out what it is and how it works or what is the use of it, makes sense to me.
"You'd have to be a floating database guru clad in a white toga and ghandi level of sereneness to fix this goddamn clusterfuck.", BruceN[ ^]
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d@nish wrote: There is nothing wrong in asking help with basics as long the intent to learn has been demonstrated in the question.
That's very well said, but the problem I see is that knowing how to frame and ask a question is a skill that many people seeking assistance may not have developed, or, may not possess in the English language, because it it not their "mother tongue."
The norms that surround the act of asking for assistance ... what's proper, what's polite, etc. ... are often "diffuse;" they are what the sociologist Thomas Scheff called "residual norms," often not codified, learned by example in peer-group socialization.
In different cultures taking on the role of the "help-seeker" may involve psychological reactions which are culture-bound.
All that said: I agree with you there's a lot of junk on the QA forums, junk questions, junk answers.
But I, and I hope you, find some redeeming value in the perhaps rare instances we really can connect with someone and help them along in their understanding. And, as another person on this thread commented, there is the inherent value in answering questions that make you re-visit what you have learned, and often lead to surprising new insights, or make you aware of interesting and valuable things you missed.
cheers, Bill
«Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn.» Benjamin Franklin
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BillWoodruff wrote: there is the inherent value in answering questions
There, of course, is. Many times while writing code and being stuck, it strikes, "wait, sometime back I responded solution for this thing.".
"You'd have to be a floating database guru clad in a white toga and ghandi level of sereneness to fix this goddamn clusterfuck.", BruceN[ ^]
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I look at it as an exercise in patience and civility.
I really, really want to tell the "moar codz plz" people where to stick it, or the "can't find Google" people to clean up the gene pool by removing themselves from it.
So I usually type something like that, look at it again, and do a rewrite with civility in mind.
Some of that old junk could use clearing, though.
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As long as your responses are constructive, I see no problem with that. But if you just downvote or delete messages without giving a newcomer any reason for doing so, people are just going to end up thinking we're a bunch of d*cks and leave.
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Where is the proper place to discuss the impossibility of changing ones IP address ?
Once a year I like to confirm that a residential IP address is permanent, immutable, and unalterable.
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You ask here[^].
But unless you rephrase the question you'll probably get the same answer as you did from Piebald.
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Okay, thanks, dropping out here, and dropping in over there at System Admin
Oh, and I'll take your hint, and rephrase the question as a student who honestly wants to learn the answer.
(Oh DO I EVER !!! want the answer to that question !!!)
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Okay, exit lounge, asked again: HERE[^]
I will read answers there, carefully.
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Unless you order (and normally pay extra for) a specific static IP from your ISP, you do not have a permanent, immutable, or unalterable IP, you have a dynamic address. And the easiest way to change it is to turn off your router, wait 30 seconds, and turn it back on.
For fibre and fibre-to-the-cabinet, you may need a longer "wait time" as the reset timeout is generally set longer as it's a more reliable connection (mine is a couple of hours, from the last power cut we had)
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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More like some days, since many ISP use DHCP to assign public addresses and the usual policy is to assign preferentially the same IP to the same machine if it connects again inside a certain time frame.
GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP. -- TNCaver
"When you have eliminated the JavaScript, whatever remains must be an empty page." -- Mike Hankey
If a coffee bean is between the Earth and the Sun, is it a Java Eclipse? -- Sascha Lefèvre
/xml>
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Trick question? Moving the ims ands uns answers the question.
C-P-User-3 wrote: Where is the proper place to discuss the impossibility of changing ones IP address ?
Once a year I like to confirm that a residential IP address is impermanent, immutable, and unalterable.
Peter Wasser
"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts." - Bertrand Russell
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Nice way of asking a programming question in the Lounge.
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Do you see a programming solution implied in the question? I see it a perfectly valid lounge question.
At least it is not drivel or something of the day/week/...
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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Mycroft Holmes wrote: At least it is not drivel and or something of the day/week/...
From my understanding of boolean algebra that would be just as true.
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So you want to apply logic to my drivel hahahahah hic!
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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