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I am actually a desktop lover or once was, was frustrated with the metro, now I understand why it is the way it is - and to f*** with it would be to remove the benefit we will see in the future.
All my 90 yr old grandma uses windows 8 - she says its the first computer that makes sense.
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Colborne_Greg wrote: The desktop is a hard to understand technology and everyone that isn't a tech hates it.
That is why Windows 8 has a start page. 
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Windows is going to be amazing when it is just metro.
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Colborne_Greg wrote: Windows is going to be amazing when it is just metro.
For some applications.
I still use the desk top a lot because I am developing software, but for a data consumer metro will be just fine once the metro apps mature a bit.
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I am a few step away from having a metro gui from creating apps with my libraries and visual studio
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True, and MS won't stop it till PC's go away!
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No you got it wrong.
Just every desktop needs touch, like me with forty inch touch screen in my living room with windows 8 and air gestures.
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I'm looking for something like, in the Ruby on Rails world, "cucumber / capybara". I'm looking at SpecFlow[^] but was wondering what you use/recommend?
For those wondering what integration testing is, it's actually driving the UI to verify results on the screen. Contrast to unit tests, which verifies function results.
Marc
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Marc Clifton wrote: For those wondering what integration testing is, it's actually driving the UI to verify results on the screen. Contrast to unit tests, which verifies function results.
OK, got that.
Now, what's this word "testing" mean?
--- AnyQAQuestionSetter
Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952)
Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)
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OriginalGriff wrote: Now, what's this word "testing" mean?
Testing: An activity that adds 50% to your development costs and is eventually considered a complete write-off because tests, like cars being driven off the dealer's lot, quickly lose their value as requirements change.
Marc
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So, no point in doing it then. Thanks!
And I just wish I was joking... 
Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952)
Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)
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We use TestStudio from Telerik. It's very good.
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Pete O'Hanlon wrote: We use TestStudio from Telerik. It's very good.
Cool, Thanks for the recommendation!
Marc
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I use Marcia, Pete, Gabe, Brian, and a slew of other meat sacks.
Software Zen: delete this;
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Yes SpecFlow is what exactly suits your case when you really want to perform integration testing of your ViewModels and simulate the UI driven kind of things. As far as I know , It's a highly recommended behavioral driven unit testing framework.
Thanks,
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I'm supposed to test???
If it's not broken, fix it until it is
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We use Ranorex[^ at work. It is a commercial product, but the functionality is worth paying, IMHO.
Clean-up crew needed, grammar spill... - Nagy Vilmos
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This time, not brought by the nice people at Astronomy Picture of the Day[^].
We have here a family portrait of Earth and Luna[^], backlit by the sun. The exposure was too short to catch any nightside lights. What we have instead is the atmosphere bending sunlight, much as we see on the surface: orange close to the horizon, edging up to a glorious blue. On the left is a slim crescent moon.
The page also has a small slide show of other stunning space images. Enjoy!
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How do you think Software apps or services should be sold? For what they are and can do, or for what they could but don't do?
The marketer in our office is badly selling our new service; anytime anyone asks him about it he doesn't sell it on any of it's current features he always says something like "we realise it doesn't do this..." insert feature that no-one actually mentioned or asked about, "but we will be developing that in the near future."
To me it screams, "we know our product doesn't work at the moment so come back when it does.", which couldn't be further from the truth; it does exactly what it was designed for and briefed to do and does it well and should be sold on it's many merits.
You don't hear Sony advertising the PS4 saying, "We realise the graphics are a bit shoddy compared to reality and could be better and will be in the next version...buy the PS4".
Rant over. 
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To quote from the TV last night: "I'd break my foot before I stopped enjoying kicking him in the b*lls"
That's like saying "I know our new car can't swim underwater, but..."
Stupid idiot - hopefully he is on commision-only...
Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952)
Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)
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Wow...
You're right. That person needs to understand how to demonstrate or speak about your software better.
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Why is someone from marketing performing a sales job? And where's your product manager?
/ravi
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We're a small company and we perform many roles, the MD is very hands on which is sometimes a blessing sometimes a curse, so the marketing manager is the sales manager is the salesman.
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