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Mycroft Holmes wrote: All version of VS have had their shortcomings
Except version 6, that was the sweet spot as a c++ programmer before all the dot net stuff came along.
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really?
Even over VS2008 with SP1?
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I've actually been pleasantly surprised in working with VS2013 versus 08, 10, or 12.
I do, however, have to restart VS (both 12 and 13) more than once in a while because it doesn't recognize that I removed a class and so decides that it won't compile anymore.
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Everybody in the office gets sick of me shouting out "Win-Doze!".
I'm running 2010 on a crappy, Business Systems-loaded XP machine. The hardware is Core2Duo with plenty of RAM, which should be hot to trot, but no. It goes to sleep more often than a geriatric Llama.
Yesterday, for a new project, I had the joy of installing VS2012 on a 7 machine, Core i5, plenty of RAM.
The situation is slightly improved, but now I have the new, 'antique newspaper' interface. And while you can make 2012 install through a proxy(with complaints of course), updating the windows itself proves impossible once you update the updater.
And of course I just loved watching all the branded MS features install, and going 'WTF is that?'
Never mind.
My pirate friends have obtained the old Edward Woodward series '1990' for me, and I can at least escape from 'Dogs Win Prizes From Simon Cowell's Haircut' for a few hours.
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In my case 2013 works pretty well. It is slower than 2010 to open a project and for the first compiles... but after every "Lazy<T>" is loaded it works fine.
In fact, when using 2010 for javascript it crashed a lot (or it tooks hours to do something stupid and I forced it to close before that). 2013 works much better for that.
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_Maxxx_ wrote: have also had to close it and re-open once as the intellisense refused to pick
up some new classes that had been added
Ya, intellisense is pretty buggy. Helps to close all the code windows, exit, restart, and wait wait wait until intellisense is done grinding on a core rebuilding its database.
_Maxxx_ wrote: 'Waiting for required operation ...'
Running it in a virtual machine? or on a system with little memory? Only time I've seen similar behavior is from someone running windows in a virtual machine that isn't configured to be overloaded with RAM. Its not spinning on the CPU when it does that, so we suspect it's thrashing memory.
If you can get past those issues, it's really quite nice to use.
We can program with only 1's, but if all you've got are zeros, you've got nothing.
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Rebuilds target from over 140 source files, around 90,000 lines of C and C++ with 160 header files, in less than a minute and a half. Too fast really, it was nice to get a 5 minute break.
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Strange, I have a good experience with Visual Studio 2013, except, when programming on C++, but I can live with it. Your problems seems related to low memory (or slow HDD).
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_Maxxx_ wrote: I have also had to close it and re-open once as the intellisense refused to pick up some new classes that had been added - leaving red squiggles a-plenty even though it would build clean.
If you are always getting latest from source control when opening a project, disable that, or you can write a batch file to delete your *.suo files before you open a solution (though of course you'll lose your startup project and open files and who knows what other conveniences). Kind of sucks, but that was MSFT's response to our company's complaint about the squiggles (apparently the async loading fails), as opposed to, I don't know, fixing the bug. Our situation was for Silverlight projects, so YMMV.
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My brother has asked me to recommend a laptop for up to £500.
Principally music and light duty stuff, no hard core gaming.
He survives by using his phone right now.
He's basically competent on front of a PC but fighting with things that don't work as expected will entail me spending lots of time on the phone solving problems without being able to see the screen.
So I was looking for something flexible and found the ASUS TAICHI21-CW011H[^] but it's a bit expensive.
Anyone know of anything similar in the right price bracket?
Thanks,
M
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Lenovo do a fair range at a good price.
Keyboards a bit 'Thin' if you know what I mean, but a nice enough machine for the price.
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Obscurum per obscurius.
Ad astra per alas porci.
Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur .
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There's an app[^] for that.
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and on the "other" phone :
APOD[^] 
I'd rather be phishing!
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What other phone? 
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I'm guessing it starts with an "i".
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jeron1 wrote: I'm guessing it starts with an "i".
impaired?
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 Correct!
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Excellent: nice find.
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair.
Those who seek perfection will only find imperfection
nils illegitimus carborundum
me, me, me
me, in pictures
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These pics always make me feel very small! 
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I'll see your Cosmic Web and give you a Particle Beam[^]
If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein
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Leslie Nielsen [^] got there ahead of you...
Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952)
Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)
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I know.
If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein
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So why post it?
This isn't APOTWA!1
1Astronomy Picture Of Two Weeks Ago.
Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952)
Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)
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